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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

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    Judges aren't restricted to apply the law "only on the issues brought" to court.
    Can you provide some back-up for that?
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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Can you provide some back-up for that?
    I'd be interested in seeing any laws regarding what you can or cannot name your children.
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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Can you provide some back-up for that?
    Sure - juvenile and family court judges hold tremendous power in that they can invoke parens patriae when they believe that they need to step in and make a decision for a child who is incapable of doing so:

    Parens Patriae
    The power of the state to act as guardian for those who are unable to care for themselves, such as children or disabled individuals. For example, under this doctrine a judge may change custody, child support, or other rulings affecting a child's well-being, regardless of what the parents may have agreed to.

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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I'd be interested in seeing any laws regarding what you can or cannot name your children.
    New Jersey Section 8:2-1.4
    (a) The designation of a child's name including the surname is the right of the child's parent(s). The child may be given any chosen name(s) or surname, except that the State Registrar may reject a name that contains an obscenity, numerals, symbols, or a combination of letters, numerals, or symbols, or a name that is illegible.

    You'll be glad to hear that Alabama allows most anything (even obscenities like Crimson Tide), so long as it doesn't contain "numbers, periods, symbols, or non-English alphabetic characters":

    AL 420-7-1-.04 Name of Child for Registration of Birth
    (1) The parent(s) may give a child any name they wish for registration of birth. The surname of the child does not have to be the surname of either parent.
    (2) The name entered on the birth certificate shall contain only English alphabetic characters, hyphens, and apostrophes. Other characters including numbers, periods, symbols, or non-English alphabetic characters may not be used.

    Looking at the code in Tennessee, it appears that the magistrate had to give Messiah his father's last name as a matter of law.

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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    New Jersey Section 8:2-1.4
    (a) The designation of a child's name including the surname is the right of the child's parent(s). The child may be given any chosen name(s) or surname, except that the State Registrar may reject a name that contains an obscenity, numerals, symbols, or a combination of letters, numerals, or symbols, or a name that is illegible.

    You'll be glad to hear that Alabama allows most anything (even obscenities like Crimson Tide), so long as it doesn't contain "numbers, periods, symbols, or non-English alphabetic characters":

    AL 420-7-1-.04 Name of Child for Registration of Birth
    (1) The parent(s) may give a child any name they wish for registration of birth. The surname of the child does not have to be the surname of either parent.
    (2) The name entered on the birth certificate shall contain only English alphabetic characters, hyphens, and apostrophes. Other characters including numbers, periods, symbols, or non-English alphabetic characters may not be used.

    Looking at the code in Tennessee, it appears that the magistrate had to give Messiah his father's last name as a matter of law.

    so which, if any, of these laws prevents a parent from naming their child "Messiah" and under what legal basis could this judge order the name changed?
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    Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    New Jersey Section 8:2-1.4
    (a) The designation of a child's name including the surname is the right of the child's parent(s). The child may be given any chosen name(s) or surname, except that the State Registrar may reject a name that contains an obscenity, numerals, symbols, or a combination of letters, numerals, or symbols, or a name that is illegible.

    You'll be glad to hear that Alabama allows most anything (even obscenities like Crimson Tide), so long as it doesn't contain "numbers, periods, symbols, or non-English alphabetic characters":

    AL 420-7-1-.04 Name of Child for Registration of Birth
    (1) The parent(s) may give a child any name they wish for registration of birth. The surname of the child does not have to be the surname of either parent.
    (2) The name entered on the birth certificate shall contain only English alphabetic characters, hyphens, and apostrophes. Other characters including numbers, periods, symbols, or non-English alphabetic characters may not be used.

    Looking at the code in Tennessee, it appears that the magistrate had to give Messiah his father's last name as a matter of law.
    Interesting. I've never really thought of it before but it feels wrong to force people to accept as a non ethic name as their legal name simply because we wont accept Hanzi or Cyrllic characters on a birth certificate.
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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so which, if any, of these laws prevents a parent from naming their child "Messiah" and under what legal basis could this judge order the name changed?
    A statute may not be required (see Parens Patriae, above) - if one existed, I'm pretty sure it could be challenged as/deemed unconstitutional. I don't know that Alabama's statute is Constitutional - what compelling state interest is there in not allowing me to name my child Josť or Amos Thomas the 3rd?

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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Gaius46 - I would imagine it is because the state's IT systems will not accept those characters as inputs.

    BTW - Newport is right down the road from where I live. This judge's ruling is an embarrassment.

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    Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by bentjm View Post
    Gaius46 - I would imagine it is because the state's IT systems will not accept those characters as inputs.

    BTW - Newport is right down the road from where I live. This judge's ruling is an embarrassment.
    Guess then they need to get with the program and learn the wonders of Unicode.

    Seriously you're probably right and given the glacial rate of technology change in most government bureaucracies it'll be this way for years. Unfortunate for folks who'd like to maintain some connection with their heritage and ethnic names.
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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    I wonder, when the kid is older, if he will be happy or angry that the judge changed his name? I'm thinking happy.

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