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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    I know. It's kind of weird. I don't see it as hating freedom either. I think Americans gloss over the negative aspects of their history.

    They debate and fly the confederate flag, and argue the finer points of the civil war. Yeah, it wasn't all about slavery. The Nazi Party stood for more than war crimes, but Germany doesn't make light of any of it. There are way more memorials and dedications to the victims of war and genocide in Germany and I cannot name one in America for the natives and the families enslaved. Different attitudes towards history.

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    In Germany and the Netherlands that would have been forbidden, not because we do not love freedom but because we respect the memory of the more than 100,000 Dutch Jews that were massacred by that madman.

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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Well I'm not a christian, but as he was a Jew, I would think that it mattered quite a lot on what they called him...
    He wasn't a jew, he was a judean. And no, not really. All versions of Jesus in either language are ok as long as you take an interest in learning about the guy and what he did and what he taught people.

    And if you must attribute 1 name that matters, it should be Iesvs, his latin given name, because that's how he died for our sins.

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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I think she should be removed
    I think she should be removed as well. But, don't hold your breath. It's rather ironic that Tennessee debated long and hard to pass a bill banning Sharia law in Tennessee. Earlier this year the Tennessee legislature went berserk when they discovered a low level porcelain sink in one of the state senate bathrooms.

    "Holy Jesus! Earl, C.D., Jimbob, y'all got to come in here and look what's in the bathroom. Somebody done put in a Muslim foot bath! God a'mighty, them Muslims has gone too far. Next thing you know they'll be trying to marry our wimmens, 3 or 4 at a time. A friend of mine who went to Eye-rack for 8 months told me that them Muslim wimmen don't wear nothing under their dresses. They're stark nekkid under there. We can't let that happen to our wives and daughters and mothers. We may be too late. We already got a god dang Muslim foot bath in the legislative restroom! See, what happened 'cause we didn't pass that Sharia law ban?"


    Well, it probably went something like that. It is true that they went crazy. The Tennessee legislature became unglued. They were outraged that there was a Muslim foot bath. Only when they calmed the hell down did someone finally officially inform them that it was for filling mop buckets and emptying dirty mop bucket water.

    These idiots, the people who run the State of Tennessee are scared to death of Sharia law (and mop bucket sinks). But I'll bet you they won't move a finger to censure or even comment on the judge who has attempted to establish Christian law in the name of Tennessee.
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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    And from what it looks like she cannot be sued for it.
    No, but I'd think she could be removed from the bench pending judicial review.
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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    "Holy Jesus! Earl, C.D., Jimbob, y'all got to come in here and look what's in the bathroom. Somebody done put in a Muslim foot bath! God a'mighty, them Muslims has gone too far. Next thing you know they'll be trying to marry our wimmens, 3 or 4 at a time. A friend of mine who went to Eye-rack for 8 months told me that them Muslim wimmen don't wear nothing under their dresses. They're stark nekkid under there. We can't let that happen to our wives and daughters and mothers. We may be too late. We already got a god dang Muslim foot bath in the legislative restroom! See, what happened 'cause we didn't pass that Sharia law ban?"
    That sounds a lot like our own dear Texmex.
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    Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I think she should be removed as well. But, don't hold your breath. It's rather ironic that Tennessee debated long and hard to pass a bill banning Sharia law in Tennessee. Earlier this year the Tennessee legislature went berserk when they discovered a low level porcelain sink in one of the state senate bathrooms.

    "Holy Jesus! Earl, C.D., Jimbob, y'all got to come in here and look what's in the bathroom. Somebody done put in a Muslim foot bath! God a'mighty, them Muslims has gone too far. Next thing you know they'll be trying to marry our wimmens, 3 or 4 at a time. A friend of mine who went to Eye-rack for 8 months told me that them Muslim wimmen don't wear nothing under their dresses. They're stark nekkid under there. We can't let that happen to our wives and daughters and mothers. We may be too late. We already got a god dang Muslim foot bath in the legislative restroom! See, what happened 'cause we didn't pass that Sharia law ban?"


    Well, it probably went something like that. It is true that they went crazy. The Tennessee legislature became unglued. They were outraged that there was a Muslim foot bath. Only when they calmed the hell down did someone finally officially inform them that it was for filling mop buckets and emptying dirty mop bucket water.

    These idiots, the people who run the State of Tennessee are scared to death of Sharia law (and mop bucket sinks). But I'll bet you they won't move a finger to censure or even comment on the judge who has attempted to establish Christian law in the name of Tennessee.
    They also apparently don't understand the laws they presumably swore to uphold. It should be painfully obvious to anyone with any understanding our Constitution that Sharia law cannot take root here without an armed revolution.

    Btw the judge is a magistrate judge - essentially an assistant judge who handles low level matters from what I gather. In Tennessee magistrate judges are appointed by and serve at the pleasure of the judge who appointed them. She could be fired today if her superior so desired.
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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, I get the point.

    1. I like it that a judge had the guts to refuse a name that would assure bullying and ridicule for a child

    2. I do not like the reasoning the judge used. She should have kept her religious feelings out of the court room

    3. If they had not brought this case in front of the courts, the judge would not have had the opportunity to change the name

    4. no matter how I feel about it now, the only recourse for the family is to appeal the verdict of this judge

    5. the judge cannot be sued for her decision
    1. BS
    2. Yes.
    3. The judge had NO BUSINESS changing the first name. The case was not about that.
    4. Yes the judge has caused them to waste their time and money and tax payer money, again, BAD JUDGE.
    5. The judge shouldn't be sued, the judge should be removed from the bench FOREVER.
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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Pardon the brevity but I'm getting off a train right now.

    The government may not use religious tenants in adjudicating people's rights. See United States v Ballard.
    I gather you're getting this from Volokh? It's not clear that the judge is making a "theological judgment" as per United States vs. Ballard. To me, she seems to be arguing that because the perception exists in the community, the name could cause unnecessary harm to the child. I don't know that I agree in this instance, but can certainly see how that reasoning might apply in other situations.

    If she is in fact making two separate arguments, as Volokh suggests, I don't know why the religious question is even relevant because she would be acting outside her authority to interpret and apply the law. Whether or not she interpreted the law appropriately is not relevant when you're not interpreting a law to begin with.

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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, I get the point.

    1. I like it that a judge had the guts to refuse a name that would assure bullying and ridicule for a child

    2. I do not like the reasoning the judge used. She should have kept her religious feelings out of the court room

    3. If they had not brought this case in front of the courts, the judge would not have had the opportunity to change the name

    4. no matter how I feel about it now, the only recourse for the family is to appeal the verdict of this judge

    5. the judge cannot be sued for her decision
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    Any and every name can invite ridicule on a child. Every single one. I pointed out a few already that are very common names. Here are some more. "Carey me home", "Ben there, done that", "Name's Ben, Is your last name "Dover"?", "Martin the Martian". Children will tease children about anything. Using potential teasing as justification is simply wrong. Plus, you can't even prove that the a boy with the name Messiah is more likely to be teased than any other children for their names.
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