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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Which is wrong, completely and totally wrong... a judge rules based on her RELIGION, about something that was not part of the case, and they are screwed? Now how it's supposed to work in a free society.
    That doesn't work in a free society. This incident, however, occurred in Tennessee.










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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Probably not constitutional.
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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Which is wrong, completely and totally wrong... a judge rules based on her RELIGION, about something that was not part of the case, and they are screwed? Now how it's supposed to work in a free society.
    And they can appeal.
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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Maybe not in general but it's somewhat worthwhile to point out the parents were in court because of the kid's name.
    They shouldn't have been. They shouldn't have named the kid 'Messiah' but no judges should have been involved.

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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Dutch law says that civil servants must refuse inappropriate names (like swearwords, commercial names like coca-cola are mostly also seen as inappropriate, a name like Mercedes which is a brand but also a first name will be accepted), also it is not legal for someone who is called Johnson to give his child the first name Johnson, it is not legal to call your child Johnson Johnson.

    This is done to protect children from names like Messiah or for example Crack-Pipe.

    I always err on the side of caution to protect the child from ridicule and the judge did that, he protected the child from the parents stupidity to give that child such a name.


    Well, no disrespect to the Dutch, but this is the United States of America where you can name your kid whatever the hell you want to name it... There is absolutely nothing wrong with the name that they chose for this child...

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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    And they can appeal.

    Again, you are missing the point. Now it requires their time and effort and money to do so. For something that should never of happened.

    Are you just one of those bible thumpers that thinks all things must be based in or on religion, or do you really not get the point?
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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    We can know for sure it wasn't Jesus for Hebrew speakers or anybody who knew him. So what are we arguing about? What Jesus was named in his time and by the people around him? We know it was a form of Yeshua, Joshua, Yoshua etc. Even Jesus himself wouldn't have answered to that name. Doesn't that tell you a little something about what his name was?


    I know that there are certain Christan sects that will 'only' use Yeshua and not Jesus...

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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Well, his name according to the only source that counts was Iesvs. Since roman 'v' could be an 'u' then we have Iesus.
    It's exactly what I said before.

    The jews may have called him yoshua. the Romans called him Iesus. The greeks called him something similar to Iesus. As is spread out, people called him differently depending on the language filter. But in Europe, the name that got spread around wasn't the hebrew name, that didn't matter. It was the latin name of Jesus, Iesvs.


    Well I'm not a christian, but as he was a Jew, I would think that it mattered quite a lot on what they called him...

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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Every person should be allowed to legally change their name at age 18 without cost. Some of the names kids get stuck with by their parents...

    The judge is a marooon. She should legally change her name to Dumbass.


    If she was a maroon, she probably wouldn't have changed his name.

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    Re: Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Again, you are missing the point. Now it requires their time and effort and money to do so. For something that should never of happened.

    Are you just one of those bible thumpers that thinks all things must be based in or on religion, or do you really not get the point?
    Yes, I get the point.

    1. I like it that a judge had the guts to refuse a name that would assure bullying and ridicule for a child

    2. I do not like the reasoning the judge used. She should have kept her religious feelings out of the court room

    3. If they had not brought this case in front of the courts, the judge would not have had the opportunity to change the name

    4. no matter how I feel about it now, the only recourse for the family is to appeal the verdict of this judge

    5. the judge cannot be sued for her decision
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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