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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Buster Hymen.

    That was a real name.

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    Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Here's the thing...

    If the Judge hadn't gone on about the "there's only one messiah" type of talk, I'd still think it was incredibly done but not be as over the top baffled by it because I do think in extreme circumstances where it's reasonable to believe the quality of a childs life will be significantly hindered due to the parents name.

    However you'd be hard pressed to suggest to me "messiah" would fall in the realm of "Nigger" or "Arian Nation" or "Suck My Dick".

    But the bigger issue is that through the statement the judge made it clear the ruling was being made, in part, on religious grounds and reasonings. That makes the very questionable decision become one that's beyond excusing.
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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Yeah.

    I don't think it's entirely unreasonable that a judge tasked with choosing a last name for this child would recognize the asshole parents gave the kid a ****ty first name and change that too. These assholes wouldn't be standing in front of a judge if they had the whole naming thing down in the first place.

    Besides, are we angry that the judge changed his first name or are we angry that the CHRISTIAN judge changed his name? Would we be having this same conversation if instead of issuing the whole "only one Messiah" stuff the judge merely said "not only could you two assholes not agree on a last name but the first name you came up with was horrible, therefore I'm changing that too to something that won't make him the butt of jokes for the rest of his life"? This probably wouldn't have made the nightly news if that were the case.
    I could give a damn about what the judges religion was. The asshole way overstepped her bounds. She has no business ruling on the APPROPIATENESS of the given name of that child or any other. No judge has ANY right to change the name of a child unless so asked by parents, or other lawful guardians to do so and ONLY in the context of that request as these parents were doing. In this case they wanted a ruling on the last name.
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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What would the parents have called him for short?

    You know like Billy for Bill

    Messy for Messiah???
    Si. Or Siah.

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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post

    Messy for Messiah???
    Not Messy for Messiah... Messi IS the Messiah.

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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    This seems hard to believe. Still, can't wait for the Onion article covering this. Heading titled, "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
    or...

    Messiah drowns. Couldn't walk on water.
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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This judge should go. There is no way that she should have changed the kid's first name. It was absolutely not her place.

    I personally like the name Messiah. I don't know what everyone's problem is with it. And most children would not care. Those that would need to learn not to be so easily offended.

    It can't be any worse than "Apple" or "Sage Moonblood" or "Tu Morrow". (In fact, I've teased my brothers that one of them should name their child "Mercedes" because of our family name.) Or how about any of these real baby names from last year?

    http://www.today.com/moms/har****-ab...mes-6C10141004
    I like the name Messiah, too. And I don't think it's a name that kids would bully, either. It's a name (or title) that is revered ...as the judge herself obviously believed.

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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So do we then produce a list of names we can't name a child? Who maintains or decides what is on that list. And who's moral standpoint do we use?

    I agree that the names you listed are inappropriate, but "messiah" hardly falls under that list. I happen to think Naming kids after cars or seasons is stupid as well, should my thought trump a parents rights?

    Are we now going to exclude people naming their children Mohammad or Jesus?
    I think we leave it to common sense, personally - I appreciate that many parents wouldn't know common sense if it smacked them upside the head, but leave it to parents to decide but I see no reason why a court, as a guardian of a child's rights, can't step in some times and give the parents the legal equivalent of a smack upside the head. We don't need a government mandated list of appropriate names, we just need parents who aren't high on crack when they fill out the birth certificate forms.
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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    This reminds me of a story not too long about about parents who named their child Adolf Hitler, and others with the names of prominent Nazi officials. Personally, I don't have a problem with the name "Messiah" other than that the parents are morons for naming their child that, and it's a stupid name IMO.

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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I think we leave it to common sense, personally - I appreciate that many parents wouldn't know common sense if it smacked them upside the head, but leave it to parents to decide but I see no reason why a court, as a guardian of a child's rights, can't step in some times and give the parents the legal equivalent of a smack upside the head. We don't need a government mandated list of appropriate names, we just need parents who aren't high on crack when they fill out the birth certificate forms.
    In a custody dispute, and believe you me, I know all about custody law (*At least in NY State) the child is appointed a law guardian, or now called lawyer for the child. It is the "role" of the law guardian to represent the rights and wishes of the child within the confines of the law, and what's in the best interest of said child. In the case of a 7 month old, this becomes a bit of a burden, but it is possible that there is a whole lot more going on here with squabbling parents that is not being reported, and the guardian has first hand knowledge of it, and that's why he/she recommended the name be changed. The court referee (Judge) cannot rule on something that is not specifically asked for. My guess (and it's just a guess) is that Mom wants to stick it to Dad, or Dad wants to stick it to Mom, and the guardian was having none of it, and the judge agreed.


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