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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I had a boss named Richard Head and nobody dared call him the shortened version and keep their job.
    That's an awful lot of temptation. That would be very difficult for me to resist. In fact, wait for it..............Resistance would be futile. Couldn't resist a Star Trek reference. It was futile. It would be difficult to keep a **** eating grin off my face for couple weeks. Hiya Di.. ahh Rich.

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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    That was my thought when my wife was reading this article out loud while she was on the computer.

    At first I went "Oh god, it's going to be one of those cases wherep oeple name their child something horribly stupid"

    then she got to the judge part and I was like

    "wow.,...takes a lot to make yousrelf look even stupider than parents who named their kid 'messiah'"
    She was most definitely on a mission to prove she was the stupidest there that's for darn sure.
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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Here's the thing...

    If the Judge hadn't gone on about the "there's only one messiah" type of talk, I'd still think it was incredibly done but not be as over the top baffled by it because I do think in extreme circumstances where it's reasonable to believe the quality of a childs life will be significantly hindered due to the parents name.

    However you'd be hard pressed to suggest to me "messiah" would fall in the realm of "Nigger" or "Arian Nation" or "Suck My Dick".

    But the bigger issue is that through the statement the judge made it clear the ruling was being made, in part, on religious grounds and reasonings. That makes the very questionable decision become one that's beyond excusing.

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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Bullying is part of life. An essential part of life both being on the receiving end and dishing out. Its how you learn compassion and tolerance for others. Because you don't like it when its done to you. Its how you learn to stand for yourself despite getting your butt handed to you on a platter. Bloody noses, skinned knuckles and knees, and hurt feelings are all part of growing up, of gaining an essential character quality, intestinal fortitude. Some government hack shouldn't have the power to take away the opportunities to learn those things. Its just sad really that children today don't get to test themselves. That's part of growing up too.

    As far as sovereignty, your country is, you aren't. That's a big difference. You don't think like a sovereign.

    Respect is earned, NEVER given.
    Yes, some bullying is normal but with a name like Messiah one can assume/imagine that bullying will be much more often and for longer than normally. Your views about teaching children how to have respect/compassion/tolerance and how to stand up for themselves is how kids were taught 50 to 100 years ago. It is an antiquated way of teaching children valuable life lessons.

    And there is no government hack who wants to take opportunities away but who is charged with not unduly negatively torturing a child with a totally in-appropriate name like for example "Methadon Molly" or "Crack-Whore" and names like that. Parents should generally be totally free to name their children but there are boundaries and that has nothing to do with not thinking like a sovereign but with compassion and the right to children to not be punished for the stupidity of parents.
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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    That's an awful lot of temptation. That would be very difficult for me to resist. In fact, wait for it..............Resistance would be futile. Couldn't resist a Star Trek reference. It was futile. It would be difficult to keep a **** eating grin off my face for couple weeks. Hiya Di.. ahh Rich.

    I wonder was he thinned skinned or had a rhino hide?

    We actually had an employee (goofball) slip up and say "Hey, Mr Dick Head"....lol

    He didn't laugh though I had to leave the room. He must of heard it all thru school and partially why he probably succeeded in life.

    You know regardless of what name your parents give you it can be changed for the most part by a nickname.

    I can't tell you how many older guys whose parents named them things like Marion that changed it. I know a lot of guys with initials as there name like B.J. or Bubba or some such.
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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Get out. Do you really think a baby's name should be a matter of judicial revue?
    Unless your name is Ziggy, Dweezel or Moon Unit you don't have a case.
    Maybe not in general but it's somewhat worthwhile to point out the parents were in court because of the kid's name.

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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, some bullying is normal but with a name like Messiah one can assume/imagine that bullying will be much more often and for longer than normally. Your views about teaching children how to have respect/compassion/tolerance and how to stand up for themselves is how kids were taught 50 to 100 years ago. It is an antiquated way of teaching children valuable life lessons.

    And there is no government hack who wants to take opportunities away but who is charged with not unduly negatively torturing a child with a totally in-appropriate name like for example "Methadon Molly" or "Crack-Whore" and names like that. Parents should generally be totally free to name their children but there are boundaries and that has nothing to do with not thinking like a sovereign but with compassion and the right to children to not be punished for the stupidity of parents.
    The children aren't being punished. Their parents are unconventional or stupid or both. In any case they are free in this country to name their children as they wish. Any public official who says or tries to do otherwise ought to be hung from a lamppost and feed the crows.

    Your notions of antiquated are just that notions. My families and others methods of raising children have been time honored and tested and with very minor tweaking, work and well at producing self sufficient thinking individuals that can improvise, overcome and adapt to most situations. Not to mention, have a bit of financial success. Knowing how to swim with "sharks" is an essential skill.
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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Maybe not in general but it's somewhat worthwhile to point out the parents were in court because of the kid's name.
    The kids LAST name.
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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, some bullying is normal but with a name like Messiah one can assume/imagine that bullying will be much more often and for longer than normally. Your views about teaching children how to have respect/compassion/tolerance and how to stand up for themselves is how kids were taught 50 to 100 years ago. It is an antiquated way of teaching children valuable life lessons.
    I see why you keep avoiding my question. If you're concerned about ridicule and teasing a name like "Dick" is going to get more ridicule and teasing and bullying than Messiah. So are you for banning the name "Dick" or "Peter"? If not, you don't give a **** about the teasing you just care "messiah" was used and you are against it for RELIGIOUS reasons like the judge.

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    Re: Tennessee Judge orders baby's name be changed from 'Messiah'

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    The kids LAST name.
    Yeah.

    I don't think it's entirely unreasonable that a judge tasked with choosing a last name for this child would recognize the asshole parents gave the kid a ****ty first name and change that too. These assholes wouldn't be standing in front of a judge if they had the whole naming thing down in the first place.

    Besides, are we angry that the judge changed his first name or are we angry that the CHRISTIAN judge changed his name? Would we be having this same conversation if instead of issuing the whole "only one Messiah" stuff the judge merely said "not only could you two assholes not agree on a last name but the first name you came up with was horrible, therefore I'm changing that too to something that won't make him the butt of jokes for the rest of his life"? This probably wouldn't have made the nightly news if that were the case.

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