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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    They kind of go hand and hand. When large swaths of the population are like "why the **** are we here again?" they probably aren't willing to spend trillions and lose thousands of lives in order stay until the end.
    When large swathes of the population believe that it was "all about oil" or WMD then they are more ignorant than their enemies and doomed to fail. No foreign propagande is necessary if domestic propaganda is sufficient, and all the weaponry in the world is of little use. Propaganda has become the key.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Actually the "Do you want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" was the primary reason.
    Who are you quoting here? I believe you've just made this up and are therefor a propagandist. Is that correct?

    The whole "Saddam is a terrible despot/violated U.N. Declarations" is just revisionist history.
    That's a lie.

    WMD's was the primary reason being pushed by the Bush administration for going to war in IRAQ,
    Another lie.
    and the apologists are now trying to backtrack.
    Backtrack aaginst what?

    Despot or no despot, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
    Who said he did?
    Of course the American people will become divided about Iraq. The reasons we went there were nebulous and ultimately false in many instances.
    Only among the terminaly stupid, and they numbered in the thousands.
    You'll notice that that American people were completely united in going into Afganistan because the reason we went there were clear and decisive.
    Yes, that's the won Obama thought was important and from which he is now retreating.
    Your attempt to blame liberals for not supporting the president in Iraq is noted.
    Thank you.

    Supporting the president does not mean accepting everything the government tells you.
    Granted. But it does not mean you lie against your leadership either, and support those who are killing American people.
    If the goal was really to get rid of despot brutalizing their people then there are several other nations that should have been higher on the list for invasion than Iraq.
    Which one would you have America invade? Tibet?

    The Middle East is the source of modern terror but if you can come up with a more dangerous area of the world then we can take a look at it.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    When large swathes of the population believe that it was "all about oil" or WMD then they are more ignorant than their enemies and doomed to fail. No foreign propagande is necessary if domestic propaganda is sufficient, and all the weaponry in the world is of little use. Propaganda has become the key.
    Wowzers...so the case made wasn't about WMD's? Do I have to post the gazillion youtube clips of Cheney/Powel/Rice/Bush using that as justification for war? The mushroom clouds over New York or the multiple other scenarios where the Iraq WMD program is given to terrorists and then used against the US? The whole "Hussein is a bad guy and we're liberating the people" became the justification AFTER! the administration couldn't find any WMD's....and believe me they tried. When I was there in 2004 one of my duties was to ride with US intelligence to try and track down this supposed arsenal of WMD's.
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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Questioning why we were in Iraq in the first place is not "anti-American propoganda. If the Iraq war was a war worth fighting then there wouldn't be muddled messaging and a divided populace.
    The problem is that there is a muddled populace which forms the loudest part of the American public. You can tell that by their slogans, bumper stickers and obvious lack of research.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Bitch about Iraq all you want...there are still less deaths in Iraq than in the city of Chicago in any given year.
    But that won't be mentioned unless George W. Bush was the mayor.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The problem is that there is a muddled populace which forms the loudest part of the American public. You can tell that by their slogans, bumper stickers and obvious lack of research.
    Then why did we go into Iraq?

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Wowzers...so the case made wasn't about WMD's? Do I have to post the gazillion youtube clips of Cheney/Powel/Rice/Bush using that as justification for war?
    Quote me directly or don't bother responding.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Then why did we go into Iraq?
    It was an opportunity to enter the Middle East, the major host of international terrorism, and create a permanent presence..

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Quote me directly or don't bother responding.
    Color me confused? You claimed the war being about WMD's is "domestic propaganda" and misinformation....
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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Color me confused? You claimed the war being about WMD's is "domestic propaganda" and misinformation....
    Yes, you are confused.

    No offense but your posts hold no interest for me. Please move on.

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