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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    The SVA held its own? Link to that, I would love to see it.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Which is the reason why we could not win in Vietnam. We could not attack certain targets in north veitnam because of the possibility of china retaliating against us.

    Either you've got a mental block or you're to young remember our forces in Cambodia and Laos. Now run that by us again. Oh I forgot you read only Progressive revised history.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Wehrwolfen View Post
    Either you've got a mental block or you're to young remember our forces in Cambodia and Laos. Now run that by us again. Oh I forgot you read only Progressive revised history.
    I am saying that we could not win the veitnam war in terms recognizable to us as a victory. We could not win by bombing the north Vietnamese into submission. We could not attack certain targets in north veitnam, such as their airfields and ports, because there were Russian and Chinese supporting the the north Vietnamese and killing them could have escalated the war in veitnam into a global war.

    As for the Viet cong, we always have a problem fighting asemetrical warfare. The veit cong did not have to worry about concepts such as borders and the differance between non-combatants and combatatants. We attacked Laos and Cambodia, countries that were not even part of veitnam war to begin with, because we were frustrated that the ho chi min trail did not need to respect boundrys of sovregin nations.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The SVA held its own? Link to that, I would love to see it.
    See VIETNAM A History The First Complete Account of Vietnam at War. Or, if you have a problem reading thick books, look up the PBS series based on the book.
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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I dont care what Russia or China do with oil from the ME. Really I dont.
    Are we going to defend, protect and buy up every resource to keep it out of the hands of the "enemy"?
    If that is the case, screw it. Lets just declare war on them and get it on.
    Ahhh yes we are, we are going to spend as many taxpayer dollars and grant as many tax breaks to USofA big oil as it takes to keep oil out of the hands of 'our' enemies.

    Who would you declare war on? China and Russia or the Middle Eastern countries? China and Russia are pure suicide and in case you didn't pay much attention to the debacle Iraq was, we can't afford seizing one oil rich nation much less the entire region. And as Iraq further rubbed our noses in it, taking the ground is rather easy, holding it and making any use of it is a whole 'nother cat.

    50 years of bribing our way to dominate the oilfields of the Middle East would be chump change to trying to conquer it by military force.

    The quickest way to third world status will be to try and take by military force the entire Middle East.

    Do you really hate your country and those who would die to 'get it on' THAT much????

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Ahhh yes we are, we are going to spend as many taxpayer dollars and grant as many tax breaks to USofA big oil as it takes to keep oil out of the hands of 'our' enemies.
    Of course we could also start exploiting our own oil and gas resources more aggressively (which would incidentally put a lot of our own citizens back to work) if only the Greenies didn't have a lock on our current administration.
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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Of course we could also start exploiting our own oil and gas resources more aggressively (which would incidentally put a lot of our own citizens back to work) if only the Greenies didn't have a lock on our current administration.
    Drill baby drill is as worn out as trickle down and domino effect... need new material.

    It wouldn't put a lot of citizens back to work as the work is rather specialized in the exploration game. Working an oil rig isn't for many citizens. and many of the new guys will be on workman's comp within a year, dangerous and you have to be young, or desperate- or a combination of the two. I've known a few IT guys who took their retrain into programming, course they tap along without the full 10...


    The Cons had several administration's worth of drillers but you seem to forget that part and just blame this administration...

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Have to remember, a totally different peoples. Japan, knew it was beaten. Germany after the Nazis were removed and tried. Became an ally based on the fact that millions of Germans lived in the US already, as well as Italians.
    And look how long it took.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Drill baby drill is as worn out as trickle down and domino effect... need new material.

    It wouldn't put a lot of citizens back to work as the work is rather specialized in the exploration game. Working an oil rig isn't for many citizens. and many of the new guys will be on workman's comp within a year, dangerous and you have to be young, or desperate- or a combination of the two. I've known a few IT guys who took their retrain into programming, course they tap along without the full 10...


    The Cons had several administration's worth of drillers but you seem to forget that part and just blame this administration...
    This administration is the one that pretends the Bakken field doesn't exist, and this administration opposes Keystone XL. You need to update your material.
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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That is impossible to do with a foreign, occupying force and a divided people. We could not bring them democracy or stability, that should have been recognized beforehand. You can't force freedom.
    You can force stability.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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