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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The results are the same. We left and mass killings ensued. Pol Pot come to mind? The Khmer Rouge? The Killing Fields? The hundreds of thousands dead after we bailed after 14 years, billion of dollars, and 50K of our people dead?
    You are the one that has no idea what you are talking about.
    No use debating with people who are not interested in historical facts.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Oh abso-freakin-loutly-

    How some ever if we don't defend our big oil interests in the Gulf, remember it is as much Exxon who rules the Middle East as any petty tyrant- which most our 'dear allies' are- if our big oil doesn't bring our big military our big oil can suck it.

    Roosia and China would LOVE to assist their dear friends the Arabs with that nasty oil surplus problem. (and they have faaaar less qualms about human/women's rights and all that other western corrupting nonsense)

    Hell the EU could put together both a oil consortium and military police force if it only has to stop Iran from south and look the other way when 'hooligans' cause problems over rights.

    Oh and we don't get much oil from the Middle East- the countries that 'break it off in our backsides' are infact our dear neighbors, north and south....

    (it is our own oil giants who rake in massive profits under the cover of USofA weapons selling to the rest of the world)
    I dont care what Russia or China do with oil from the ME. Really I dont.
    Are we going to defend, protect and buy up every resource to keep it out of the hands of the "enemy"?
    If that is the case, screw it. Lets just declare war on them and get it on.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The results are the same. We left and mass killings ensued. Pol Pot come to mind? The Khmer Rouge? The Killing Fields? The hundreds of thousands dead after we bailed after 14 years, billion of dollars, and 50K of our people dead?
    You are the one that has no idea what you are talking about.
    Pol pot was in Cambodia. The Khmer Rouge was active in Cambodia.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    No use debating with people who are not interested in historical facts.
    Oh, please. What "fact" am I missing?
    We went to Kuwait to defend the oil producing nation and friend of Bush 1 from Iraq.
    We went back to Iraq when Bush 2 came along to go after the man that went after his daddy. OK, I can dig that.
    But we went under the BS vail of UN sanctions. Saddam is killing Kurds and such. Well who is at fault for that? We are.
    We told them when we would be leaving giving them time to prepare for what they are doing now. Destabilizing the nation.
    How much did that littel foray in the desert cost us? WAS IT WORTH IT?
    I have asked that a couple times and you just try to back wash my posts saying "its no use debating". A sure sign you lost whatever debate you had.
    Oh, and if you old enough. You may remember that we backed Iraq in the Iran Iraq war.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Pol pot was in Cambodia. The Khmer Rouge was active in Cambodia.
    And they were given free reign to do whatever they wanted after we left. Tail tucked off embassy roofs after 50K our fellow Americans gave it all.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    And they were given free reign to do whatever they wanted after we left. Tail tucked off embassy roofs after 50K our fellow Americans gave it all.
    I think your confusing veitnam with Cambodia.

    I don't recall us even having a embassy in Cambodia.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I think your confusing veitnam with Cambodia.

    I don't recall us even having a embassy in Cambodia.
    How quickly we forget.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I think your confusing veitnam with Cambodia.

    I don't recall us even having a embassy in Cambodia.
    My point is, South Viet Nam was over run by the North and destabilized for years.
    And after 50K dead, was it worth it. Just like in Iraq. Was it worth it?
    We took our vastly superior forces and hauled ass out of there throwing million of dollars of planes and helicoptors in to the ocean to make room for refugees.
    What we left was a void filled by, just like Iraq, our enemies.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    One can only achieve so much with air power.
    Saying it was "just like Vietnam" is short for "I can't be bothered to think about it rationally".
    Very well said!
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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Very well said!
    Yes, lets keep sacrifcing our nations weath, our future generations for piss poor reasons.
    Lets keep our noses in places we dont belong and continue to make enemies out of people we should have no business dealing with.
    Lets keep doing bombing campaigns then sending in the engineers to build schools, roads and bridges while our schools, roads and bridges are falling apart.
    If we dont get enough oil from the ME to make a difference? Then leave the ME. Let them fight it out. And if Russia and China wish to get involved over there. Let them. Maybe with some luck they will end up fighting each other.
    Dont we have enough dead, injured, wounded Americans already? Do we need thousands more?

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