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Thread: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    Or maybe our being there in the first place.
    Yes, fortunately nothing bad happened there and nobody was killed under Saddam Hussein.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Looks like up and leaving wasn't such a great idea.
    One can't protect a country against itself forever.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Looks like up and leaving wasn't such a great idea.
    Looks like up and going wasnt such a great idea.
    I understand Bush's reasons, but was it worth it?

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    Yes, fortunately nothing bad happened there and nobody was killed under Saddam Hussein.
    No, but they had a civil engineering plan, internal security, an education system, and were not at war with either themselves or anyone else.
    They were for the most part a dirt speck on the earth.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Can't undo going there. But, we should have made sure things were going to remain stable, before we left.
    But we were being seen as occupiers and no longer liberators.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    No, but they had a civil engineering plan, internal security, an education system, and were not at war with either themselves or anyone else.
    They were for the most part a dirt speck on the earth.
    Their internal security system consisted of large-scale massacres, compared to which the current death-toll is pretty small.

    And they were at war with most of their neighbours and a continuing threat to the other countries in the region.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    Their internal security system consisted of large-scale massacres, compared to which the current death-toll is pretty small.

    And they were at war with most of their neighbours and a continuing threat to the other countries in the region.
    We kicked them out of Kuwait and the Iran Iraq war was over.
    And at this rate, how long before the "large scale massacres" pale in comparison.
    And you didnt answer my question. Was it worth it?
    Our investment in lives and money have helped almost break OUR nation.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    We kicked them out of Kuwait and the Iran Iraq war was over.
    And at this rate, who long before the "large scale massacres" pale in comparison.
    And you didnt answer my question. Was it worth it?
    Our investment in lives and money have helped almost break OUR nation.
    They continued to violate the terms of the cease-fire, tried to blow up a US ex-President, kept threatening their neighbours.
    You also seem to forget that the US and its allies kept bombing Iraq throughout the 1990's. Would you have preferred to keep doing that for a couple of decades longer?
    The number of dead from the current attacks would have to rise 100fold for it to approach the bloodletting under Saddam.
    Whether it was worth it is much too soon to tell. There isn't sufficient historical perspective yet.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    They continued to violate the terms of the cease-fire, tried to blow up a US ex-President, kept threatening their neighbours.
    You also seem to forget that the US and its allies kept bombing Iraq throughout the 1990's. Would you have preferred to keep doing that for a couple of decades longer?
    The number of dead from the current attacks would have to rise 100fold for it to approach the bloodletting under Saddam.
    Whether it was worth it is much too soon to tell. There isn't sufficient historical perspective yet.
    They continued to violate the terms of a cease fire and no fly zone.
    Use air power to destroy their war machine.
    Their neighbors need to start investing in their own defense.
    It would have been cheaper to continue a bombing campaign then to waste how many American lives.
    It will never been worth it. Just like Viet Nam.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    They continued to violate the terms of a cease fire and no fly zone.
    Use air power to destroy their war machine.
    Their neighbors need to start investing in their own defense.
    It would have been cheaper to continue a bombing campaign then to waste how many American lives.
    It will never been worth it. Just like Viet Nam.
    One can only achieve so much with air power.
    Saying it was "just like Vietnam" is short for "I can't be bothered to think about it rationally".

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