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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Oh I agree. Until there is a simple test to separate the Islamists from regular Muslims there are going to be a great many difficulties. Do you agree with the similar proposition that Muslims should be discouraged from entering western democracies?
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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I implied it???

    Actually I did no such thing. You simply read it incorrectly but that's no big deal. I was talking only of an Islamic education and that could be anywhere in the world.
    you know turks are muslim and you tried to justify your own claim by implying that my thoughts about crusaders might have resulted from my background of islam
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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    you know turks are muslim and you tried to justify your own claim by implying that my thoughts about crusaders might have resulted from my background of islam
    Indeed I did, but it has nhing to do with Turkey and everything to do with an Islamic education.

    Have you considered the idea that perhaps Muslim teachers may view the Crusades differently than non Muslims?

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    Where do you have the problem? There is also a question in that post that you may want to look at.

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    they are not muslim ,they are islamist

    teh west knows how to seperate them from each other
    You are exactly right. Unfortunately our current leader seems unable make the distinction.
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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    You are exactly right. Unfortunately our current leader seems unable make the distinction.
    It seems many share the same problem. Know Thine Enemy | National Review Online

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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    We fight to the very end to defeat radical Islam as I would to defeat radical christianity... any radical movement that seeks to use violence for political ends.

    I oppose any ideal that targets innocent people for political gain.

    Which is why I also have to oppose yours.

    For your ideas would lead to the persecution of many innocent people and would be fundamentally wrong.
    It is also true that not all Germans were Nazis. But because their leaders were Nazis, there was heavy collateral damage among the non-Nazis. As long as the Islamists hide behind the innocent, those innocents are at extreme risk - unless, of course, you lack the moral courage to do the right thing and eliminate the bad guys; in that case, the bad guys win.
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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems many share the same problem. Know Thine Enemy | National Review Online
    Agreed. Political Correctness is a serious threat to "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness."
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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    You are exactly right. Unfortunately our current leader seems unable make the distinction.
    l dont think he cant
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    but he is teh president and he has to forget his own ideas
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    Re: Car bombs kill nearly 80 in Iraq, target Eid festivities

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Can't undo going there. But, we should have made sure things were going to remain stable, before we left.
    Yeah they were REAL FREAKIN' stable while we were there!

    Look at any stats/graphs on civilians deaths and you see using 2008 as measure, the first half was high, a sudden drop off in the last half and roughly 1/3 the number since. So those who lament a lack of 'leadership' under President Obama have not done their homework.

    Those who use such vague words like 'stable' just quibble. The death toll is stable, the government is stable, the borders stable, and oil production stable.

    None of which means much, just the killing continues at a lower rate than the first half of '08, the government hasn't dissolved, the borders are still there and as 'secure' as when we were there, and oil flows but not like the predictions of those who assured the American Public we would be greeted with flowers and candies...

    We didn't fix much or stablize anything, simply changed the face of fear from a few to many.

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