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Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

winston53660 said:
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While Texas’s state government debt is relatively modest—just $40 billion, or $1,577 per resident—local government debt is more than four times higher: $192 billion. That’s $7,505 per capita, according to Combs’s report—the second-highest sum in the nation, behind only New York’s municipalities and far ahead of third-place California’s. Over the last decade, moreover, local debt has increased 144 percent, much faster than the rate of population increase plus inflation.

Deep in the Debt of Texas by Steven Malanga, City Journal Spring 2013
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Wow, lived in this state for over 21 years and didn't realize how bad it was. Guess that could be because I don't live in the Dallas suburbs of Allen and thus don't pay for their debt nor do I live in Houston and am not paying for the Astrodome. Seems that people pick and choose where they want to live and know the tax structure and costs before doing so. Maybe that is another area you liberals can legislate, where people live.
 
Conservative said:
Wow, lived in this state for over 21 years and didn't realize how bad it was. Guess that could be because I don't live in the Dallas suburbs of Allen and thus don't pay for their debt nor do I live in Houston and am not paying for the Astrodome. Seems that people pick and choose where they want to live and know the tax structure and costs before doing so. Maybe that is another area you liberals can legislate, where people live.
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Yawn whatever con. You don't give a **** about Texas you only care to boast and brag.
 
Conservative said:
Yep, I am flat ass miserable and apparently are all those who are flocking to TX so they can be miserable as well. Love those reports because it keeps liberals out of this state. Amazing isn't it, how bad this state is and businesses are flocking to it and the citizens of the state keep electing Republicans. Since you are such a strong believer in the will of the people, oh, wait you aren't because you cannot sell your own state on UHC, wonder why it is that the TX population is exploding as is the economy? Could it be those reports don't tell the entire story?
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Facts are facts. :lamo:lamo:lamo
 
Conservative said:
Yep, you have it all figured out, just like you whine and complain yet continue to live in this state.
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Whatever con us natives actually care about Texas you should stop pretending like you do.
 
winston53660 said:
Whatever con us natives actually care about Texas you should stop pretending like you do.
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From what I can see you represent a minority of the "natives" in TX or the "natives" of TX wouldn't be voting for Republicans in overwhelming numbers. How many votes did Obama lose TX by? You think you represent Texans when the reality is you represent the worst of TX, someone who always whines and complains but never offers anything positive on any issue.
 
Boo Radley said:
Don't make leaps. I never said anyone was assured of anything.

Nor confuse me with NAFTA support.

You do too much liberals and conservative stereotyping. I think it's because of what you read, tainting your reasoning ability, but the thing is actual people tend to not be so easily categorized.

Nor has anyone said lower all boats. That too is a canned response. Do you even remember what we were talking about?
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It wasn't me that put up that dumb article. That'd be you, so own it. If people don't like their station in life, then it's up to them to change it and keep their hands out of my face.
 
Earlier I wrote, "Powell is black first and foremost. He is an American second. And a status quo republican loser (SQRL) third. I have despised him for a very long time. My assessment of him has been right all along."

NIMBY said:
complete racist unAmerican lunacy
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Powell's performance? Yes, I quite agree.
 
As a poster, you call General Colin Powell black first and foremost and an American second, as well as a status quo republican loser (SQRL)--You then quite agree, your words, that Powell's performance is complete, racist unAmerican lunacy. Your comments stand on their own.
Misterveritis said:
Earlier I wrote, "Powell is black first and foremost. He is an American second. And a status quo republican loser (SQRL) third. I have despised him for a very long time. My assessment of him has been right all along."



Powell's performance? Yes, I quite agree.
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j-mac said:
It wasn't me that put up that dumb article. That'd be you, so own it. If people don't like their station in life, then it's up to them to change it and keep their hands out of my face.
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Do you just memorize this stuff? No one said anything anyone being unhappy or changing anything. Try hard to just address what us actually said.
 
Boo Radley said:
No one is now nor has proposed n any way control all of health care. No one.
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We already have control of all healthcare. The federal govt has thousands and thousands of pages of federal laws, and even more regulations. States and local govts add on top of that.
 
jonny5 said:
We already have control of all healthcare. The federal govt has thousands and thousands of pages of federal laws, and even more regulations. States and local govts add on top of that.
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Get real. If health care was controlled, we wouldn't be the most expensive in the world. You guys are masters of hyperbole. :lamo:lamo:lamo
 
Boo Radley said:
Get real. If health care was controlled, we wouldn't be the most expensive in the world. You guys are masters of hyperbole. :lamo:lamo:lamo
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How do you know other countries of the world calculate healthcare costs the same as we do and have the same categories. Until the Federal Govt. gets the waste, fraud, and abuse out of Federal Spending why would anyone support another entitlement program? Could it be because it makes you feel better knowing that everyone has access? With access comes problems, just ask MA and yet you say we will adapt to that. When has the U.S. Govt. ever adapted to higher costs?

Why does U.S. health care cost so much? - Regence
 
Conservative said:
How do you know other countries of the world calculate healthcare costs the same as we do and have the same categories. Until the Federal Govt. gets the waste, fraud, and abuse out of Federal Spending why would anyone support another entitlement program? Could it be because it makes you feel better knowing that everyone has access? With access comes problems, just ask MA and yet you say we will adapt to that. When has the U.S. Govt. ever adapted to higher costs?

Why does U.S. health care cost so much? - Regence
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Cost is cost. You're trying to merely excuse our excessive spending. But the fact remains, medicine is not government controlled.
 
Boo Radley said:
Cost is cost. You're trying to merely excuse our excessive spending. But the fact remains, medicine is not government controlled.
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no, costs are not costs per se, costs have elements and of course you know that. Not sure still what your game is but you never answer a direct question but simply give a number of one line responses that never address the questions. How do you know that foreign countries have the same elements of costs as we have and allocate the costs the same way? Notice the impact on govt. regulations on costs, FDA approvals, R&D. You seem to lack a basic understanding of the elements of costs and how those elements are affected by human behavior.
 
Conservative said:
no, costs are not costs per se, costs have elements and of course you know that. Not sure still what your game is but you never answer a direct question but simply give a number of one line responses that never address the questions. How do you know that foreign countries have the same elements of costs as we have and allocate the costs the same way? Notice the impact on govt. regulations on costs, FDA approvals, R&D. You seem to lack a basic understanding of the elements of costs and how those elements are affected by human behavior.
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I do answer direct questions. I give a complete answer. You guys try to be tricky and often ask asinine questions. And sure, nothing is without problems. But that doesn't mean we don't do things needed just because it may be difficult.
 
Boo Radley said:
I do answer direct questions. I give a complete answer. You guys try to be tricky and often ask asinine questions. And sure, nothing is without problems. But that doesn't mean we don't do things needed just because it may be difficult.
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You are a legend in your own mind. You don't answer questions, you divert. You want badly to believe that the one size fits all govt. program is the answer yet cannot point to a successful Medicare or SS administration unless rising costs, waste, fraud, and abuse are your definition of success. Rather than solve the problems yours is one of adding more fuel to the fire. Rather than thinking things through and coming up with a better solution you are like all liberal sheep buying the liberal rhetoric while ignoring the liberal results. For you it is all about access, not quality, not service. you believe by adding millions more you improve quality and provide better service. That is illogical and destroyed by actual results but results don't matter to you or any other liberal since it is all about feeling better and your own personal gain.
 
Conservative said:
You are a legend in your own mind. You don't answer questions, you divert. You want badly to believe that the one size fits all govt. program is the answer yet cannot point to a successful Medicare or SS administration unless rising costs, waste, fraud, and abuse are your definition of success. Rather than solve the problems yours is one of adding more fuel to the fire. Rather than thinking things through and coming up with a better solution you are like all liberal sheep buying the liberal rhetoric while ignoring the liberal results. For you it is all about access, not quality, not service. you believe by adding millions more you improve quality and provide better service. That is illogical and destroyed by actual results but results don't matter to you or any other liberal since it is all about feeling better and your own personal gain.
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Please. No one on this board diverts more than you do. So quit whining. Address what has been said. Stop diverting to crying abut me.
 
Boo Radley said:
Please. No one on this board diverts more than you do. So quit whining. Address what has been said. Stop diverting to crying abut me.
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Obama has proven to be a liar and you continue to buy the lies.

President Obama says If you like your Doctor You can Keep Your Doctor - YouTube

Hospitals are dropping Medicare, doctors are dropping out of the business, and private insurance companies cannot compete with a govt. entity therefore you will not be able to keep your plan or your doctor as Obama promised. That is ok to a liberal because results don't matter nor do the Obama lies.
 
Boo Radley said:
Get real. If health care was controlled, we wouldn't be the most expensive in the world. You guys are masters of hyperbole.
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Its because of all the control that we have the most expensive healthcare. :shock: :peace: :peace
 
Conservative said:
Obama has proven to be a liar and you continue to buy the lies.

President Obama says If you like your Doctor You can Keep Your Doctor - YouTube

Hospitals are dropping Medicare, doctors are dropping out of the business, and private insurance companies cannot compete with a govt. entity therefore you will not be able to keep your plan or your doctor as Obama promised. That is ok to a liberal because results don't matter nor do the Obama lies.
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I don't care if you think Obama is a liar.

And I told you we will adapt to doctors, and showed you through links that we're already using other health professionals (which lowers costs BTW), and that you're overstating the problem. I also showed you how UHC fixes all those problems. So, repeating your mantra won't change this.
 
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