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Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

You feel the government has 'clear recognition'? They are using all the latest technology to spy millions of Americans and they couldn't even prevent the Boston bombings, despite being told in advance by the Russians. And yet you feel they might have 'clear recognition' regarding disease control??

Wow, you guys do leap around. You would be heart broken and saddened to see what this country would be like without medicare and the things we do have in place. really, you would.
 
It's terrible that I read. I know. I should just listen to Rush or Beck. But, that's who I am. :shrug:


LOL, yeah we see what you read and who you listen to. How about thinking with your brain instead of your heart. How do you know that 40,000 a year isn't comfortable for people? Any idea what the cost of living is in all areas of the country?
 
How would you know? You guys throw around a lot, but really show little in terms of actual knowledge. :lamo

Sounds a lot like you, are you sure you don't have us confused with you? Tell us what kind of business you actually ran?
 
Wow, you guys do leap around. You would be heart broken and saddened to see what this country would be like without medicare and the things we do have in place. really, you would.

You point to Medicare and SS as a success story without even considering the options. Any idea what yours and your employer's contribution to SS would generate you in the way of return had you been allowed to invest it in a simple CD without being able to withdraw it? Any idea what kind of healthcare policy you could purchase with your Medicare "contributions?" Like all liberals options really aren't considered
 
LOL, yeah we see what you read and who you listen to. How about thinking with your brain instead of your heart. How do you know that 40,000 a year isn't comfortable for people? Any idea what the cost of living is in all areas of the country?

Average: $58,627 Though if you ask, they note that isn't middle class or comfortable. ;)
 
Sounds a lot like you, are you sure you don't have us confused with you? Tell us what kind of business you actually ran?

An antique shop for some years. Currently I'm creating my own LLC, computer business.
 
You point to Medicare and SS as a success story without even considering the options. Any idea what yours and your employer's contribution to SS would generate you in the way of return had you been allowed to invest it in a simple CD without being able to withdraw it? Any idea what kind of healthcare policy you could purchase with your Medicare "contributions?" Like all liberals options really aren't considered

Had a friend who handled much of his funds for retirement in the market. He was very conservative, on these type of boards for a long time. He and his wife were aging and needed those funds just as the market crashed. He larned that he didn't have time for it to build again. He was screwed. He changed his tune. I wonder about you?
 
Average: $58,627 Though if you ask, they note that isn't middle class or comfortable. ;)

That certainly is their opinion which you readily adopt. Now prove that someone cannot live comfortably on 40,000 a year plus benefits and how that varies around the nation?
 
An antique shop for some years. Currently I'm creating my own LLC, computer business.

Funny, I grew up learning personal responsibility and that it wasn't your responsibility or the government's to take care of my healthcare or retirement. What has happened to this country that has changed people into that entitlement mentality?
 
An antique shop for some years. Currently I'm creating my own LLC, computer business.

I had a network of 130 Convenience stores that employed approximately 1200 employees and I was totally responsible for their wages, benefits, for hiring, firing, and of course each monthly budget and financial statement . I can tell you that you are very naive when it comes to business operations and doubt that an antique shop gave you that experience to be an expert on business operations, P&L's, and return on investment.

Money doesn't grow on trees and govt. regulations and economic policies certainly affected my hiring decisions since I cannot print money. Further the investment in each of those locations was approximately 500k-1MM each and yes, I had debt service.
 
Had a friend who handled much of his funds for retirement in the market. He was very conservative, on these type of boards for a long time. He and his wife were aging and needed those funds just as the market crashed. He larned that he didn't have time for it to build again. He was screwed. He changed his tune. I wonder about you?

Yes, the private industry is tough with no guarantees, although I doubt what you say that he was conservative in his investments or his spending habits. What you and all other liberals want to do is put everyone into the same category and ignore cost of living, personal living expenses, spending habits, and of course the area of the country in which they lieve.
 
Wow, you guys do leap around. You would be heart broken and saddened to see what this country would be like without medicare and the things we do have in place. really, you would.

This silliness isn't responding to the question.
 
Had a friend who handled much of his funds for retirement in the market. He was very conservative, on these type of boards for a long time. He and his wife were aging and needed those funds just as the market crashed. He larned that he didn't have time for it to build again. He was screwed. He changed his tune. I wonder about you?

It's already happened that when companies fail the government bails them out. They'll be having bail out everyone soon, and not just Big Business. How might that effect the economy with the government already $17,000,000,000,000 in debt? Cut off food stamps?
 
That certainly is their opinion which you readily adopt. Now prove that someone cannot live comfortably on 40,000 a year plus benefits and how that varies around the nation?

Cannot? Well those links list where the money goes. How about you look at them and tell which they can do without and how it would effect comfort, not to mention expectations of this country.
 
Funny, I grew up learning personal responsibility and that it wasn't your responsibility or the government's to take care of my healthcare or retirement. What has happened to this country that has changed people into that entitlement mentality?


Now responsive to the question I answered, but responsibility is seldom held in one place. We have individual responsibilities, work responsibilities, community responsibilities, and corporate responsibilities, among others. ;)
 
Yes, the private industry is tough with no guarantees, although I doubt what you say that he was conservative in his investments or his spending habits. What you and all other liberals want to do is put everyone into the same category and ignore cost of living, personal living expenses, spending habits, and of course the area of the country in which they lieve.

He was. That much was clear.
 
Cannot? Well those links list where the money goes. How about you look at them and tell which they can do without and how it would effect comfort, not to mention expectations of this country.

Who says they have to live without those expenses? Those expenses aren't the same in TX as they are in NY and aren't the same in Iowa as they are in California. Someone can live quite comfortably in communities in Iowa and TX for 40,000 a year
 
Now responsive to the question I answered, but responsibility is seldom held in one place. We have individual responsibilities, work responsibilities, community responsibilities, and corporate responsibilities, among others. ;)

Sure we do, just like we have priorities and the number one priority is personal responsibilities and how we deal with those responsibilities, first by making sure the income comes in by handling your work responsibilities and you do that by taking pride in your work and your company which then handles corporate responsibilities as well as community responsibilities. I was always a good corporate citizen and that met my responsibilities to my work
 
This silliness isn't responding to the question.

Actually it does. You have to think, true, but it does. We handle things much better here because we do catch things, treat things, and have some ability to monitor disease. So the answer was a clear yes. Too anyone who could read it. ;)
 
Who says they have to live without those expenses? Those expenses aren't the same in TX as they are in NY and aren't the same in Iowa as they are in California. Someone can live quite comfortably in communities in Iowa and TX for 40,000 a year

You don know Texas sucks, right?

Report: Texas Falls Behind in Education, Health Care

Texas remains behind most other states on issues related to educational achievement, public health and the environment, according to the latest version of the "Texas on the Brink" study, released Monday.

Report: Texas Falls Behind in Education, Health Care | The Texas Tribune
 
The stock market today is at record highs so unless he sold he is better off today than he was when the market crashed which was only for a couple years.

That's quite a few years down the road. It sure didn't help him when he needed it. He might even be dead now as we haven't heard from him for some time. He'd be glad to share your cavalierness.
 
Sure we do, just like we have priorities and the number one priority is personal responsibilities and how we deal with those responsibilities, first by making sure the income comes in by handling your work responsibilities and you do that by taking pride in your work and your company which then handles corporate responsibilities as well as community responsibilities. I was always a good corporate citizen and that met my responsibilities to my work

it has nothing to do with priorities, they all exist regardless of your personal ranking system. :lamo
 
You don know Texas sucks, right?

Report: Texas Falls Behind in Education, Health Care

Texas remains behind most other states on issues related to educational achievement, public health and the environment, according to the latest version of the "Texas on the Brink" study, released Monday.

Report: Texas Falls Behind in Education, Health Care | The Texas Tribune

and:

While Texas’s state government debt is relatively modest—just $40 billion, or $1,577 per resident—local government debt is more than four times higher: $192 billion. That’s $7,505 per capita, according to Combs’s report—the second-highest sum in the nation, behind only New York’s municipalities and far ahead of third-place California’s. Over the last decade, moreover, local debt has increased 144 percent, much faster than the rate of population increase plus inflation.

Deep in the Debt of Texas by Steven Malanga, City Journal Spring 2013
 
You don know Texas sucks, right?

Report: Texas Falls Behind in Education, Health Care

Texas remains behind most other states on issues related to educational achievement, public health and the environment, according to the latest version of the "Texas on the Brink" study, released Monday.

Report: Texas Falls Behind in Education, Health Care | The Texas Tribune

Yep, I am flat ass miserable and apparently are all those who are flocking to TX so they can be miserable as well. Love those reports because it keeps liberals out of this state. Amazing isn't it, how bad this state is and businesses are flocking to it and the citizens of the state keep electing Republicans. Since you are such a strong believer in the will of the people, oh, wait you aren't because you cannot sell your own state on UHC, wonder why it is that the TX population is exploding as is the economy? Could it be those reports don't tell the entire story?
 
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