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Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

While there have always been part-time workers, especially at restaurants and retailers, employers today rely on them far more than before as they seek to cut costs and align staffing to customer traffic. This trend has frustrated millions of Americans who want to work full-time, reducing their pay and benefits.

Over the past two decades, many major retailers went from a quotient of 70 to 80 percent full-time to at least 70 percent part-time across the industry,” said Burt P. Flickinger III, managing director of the Strategic Resource Group, a retail consulting firm.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/b...for-american-workers.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

In retail do you think this reflects, at least in part, extended hours and Sunday opening?
 
In retail do you think this reflects, at least in part, extended hours and Sunday opening?

Nope. It reflects a decade long movement away from full time employment. It relieves employers of benefits. This isn't new.
 
Nope. It reflects a decade long movement away from full time employment. It relieves employers of benefits. This isn't new.

I'd like to see something that ties it to benefit reduction rather than opening hour extensions.
 
I'd like to see something that ties it to benefit reduction rather than opening hour extensions.

Odd that you're super willing to believe it is healthcare, but that they wouldn't have been doing this for the past couple of decades.
 
Red as in the color of Marxism, socialism, liberalism, progressivism and statism.

Do you think he is not above plundering the people who make the country work in order to do a little bit of money laundering for the democrats who will continue to help him create his utopia here?

Do you have to see the hammer and sickle before you will see him as he is?
Red? Who the hell uses that term anymore? You must be 80 years old.
 
There's you're typical name calling.

Well, thank you, Boo, but as usual you miss the point and simply give your one line answers never offering anything of substance. You have real passion for this issue and the question is why? What is in Obamacare for you? You think you are going to benefit from Obamacare? Think your wife will be able to stay on your insurance? Why won't she end up like UPS spouses?

Employers dropping coverage for thousands of spouses over ObamaCare costs | Fox News

I have an incredible doctor who I have been with for over 20 years and will lose him with Obamacare. You just don't seem to comprehend any consequences if you are wrong and based upon history you are definitely wrong.
 
Well, thank you, Boo, but as usual you miss the point and simply give your one line answers never offering anything of substance. You have real passion for this issue and the question is why? What is in Obamacare for you? You think you are going to benefit from Obamacare? Think your wife will be able to stay on your insurance? Why won't she end up like UPS spouses?

Employers dropping coverage for thousands of spouses over ObamaCare costs | Fox News

I have an incredible doctor who I have been with for over 20 years and will lose him with Obamacare. You just don't seem to comprehend any consequences if you are wrong and based upon history you are definitely wrong.
Then you're not reading. I've linked support.

And one doctor does not a movement make. I'm sure doctors everywhere are lining up to work retail. Tell yourself another one.
 
Then you're not reading. I've linked support.

And one doctor does not a movement make. I'm sure doctors everywhere are lining up to work retail. Tell yourself another one.

One doctor makes a difference to me just like one doctor makes a difference to anyone else who has a primary care doctor that will leave the profession. You have a passion for this issue for some reason meaning there has to be some personal gain because over time you have shown very little concern for others. It always is about you so tell us why the passion? Then answer the question, what happens if your wife is taken off your coverage? Why would any doctor line up to work retail for a program administered by the Federal Govt? Your opinion is noted.
 
One doctor makes a difference to me just like one doctor makes a difference to anyone else who has a primary care doctor that will leave the profession. You have a passion for this issue for some reason meaning there has to be some personal gain because over time you have shown very little concern for others. It always is about you so tell us why the passion? Then answer the question, what happens if your wife is taken off your coverage? Why would any doctor line up to work retail for a program administered by the Federal Govt? Your opinion is noted.

Don't buy it. You're being snowed. He had to be ready to leave already. Don't be fooled.
 
Don't buy it. You're being snowed. He had to be ready to leave already. Don't be fooled.

LOL, it really is amazing how smart you are about what other people are going to do. Too bad that results don't matter, results like wait time, higher ER usage, higher costs, doctor shortages problems which aren't addressed by Obamacare. Again, still no answer, what is in it or you? How about full disclosure from you?
 
LOL, it really is amazing how smart you are about what other people are going to do. Too bad that results don't matter, results like wait time, higher ER usage, higher costs, doctor shortages problems which aren't addressed by Obamacare. Again, still no answer, what is in it or you? How about full disclosure from you?

It's not hard. If I told you I quit teaching because theirs too much go government involvement, you should doubt it. No one goes from lots of money to no money because its a hassle. You should seriously question such claims. Really.
 
It's not hard. If I told you I quit teaching because theirs too much go government involvement, you should doubt it. No one goes from lots of money to no money because its a hassle. You should seriously question such claims. Really.

I question just about everything including your passion for this topic. I don't question a doctor who I have a personal relationship with and have had that relationship for over 20 years. You should seriously consider the consequences if you are wrong.
 
I question just about everything including your passion for this topic. I don't question a doctor who I have a personal relationship with and have had that relationship for over 20 years. You should seriously consider the consequences if you are wrong.

You should. Really.
 
You should. Really.

The consequences if we do nothing are what we are seeing now, states doing what they want and the best healthcare in the world being used by foreign leaders around the world. What you are going to see is what every other country in the world is seeing, longer wait times, private insurance being shoved out, higher costs, and lower quality.

This really is a game for you, isn't it?
 
The consequences if we do nothing are what we are seeing now, states doing what they want and the best healthcare in the world being used by foreign leaders around the world. What you are going to see is what every other country in the world is seeing, longer wait times, private insurance being shoved out, higher costs, and lower quality.

This really is a game for you, isn't it?

Hang on a second. You're trying to suggest to us that "every other country in the world" is seeing longer wait times and higher costs?

Because that is hilariously easy to disprove. Like, is this a game to you? How on earth could someone be so badly misinformed about basic health care statistics?
 
Kinda looks like Gov OOPS (AKA as gov rick perry) has seen the light.:2wave:

<Obamacare critic Rick Perry seeks cash from law>

<Gov. Rick Perry wants to kill Obamacare dead, but Texas health officials are in talks with the Obama administration about accepting an estimated $100 million available through the health law to care for the elderly and disabled, POLITICO has learned.>

<Perry health aides are negotiating with the Obama administration on the terms of an optional Obamacare program that would allow Texas to claim stepped-up Medicaid funding for the care of people with disabilities.>


Read more: Obamacare critic Rick Perry seeks cash from law - Kyle Cheney and Maggie Haberman - POLITICO.com
 
Hang on a second. You're trying to suggest to us that "every other country in the world" is seeing longer wait times and higher costs?

Because that is hilariously easy to disprove. Like, is this a game to you? How on earth could someone be so badly misinformed about basic health care statistics?

Well, what do you expect from a Conservative, I just do basic research and verify the rhetoric or disprove it. Don't know what has gotten in to me. Learned that at an early age. Shame on me.
 
Kinda looks like Gov OOPS (AKA as gov rick perry) has seen the light.:2wave:

<Obamacare critic Rick Perry seeks cash from law>

<Gov. Rick Perry wants to kill Obamacare dead, but Texas health officials are in talks with the Obama administration about accepting an estimated $100 million available through the health law to care for the elderly and disabled, POLITICO has learned.>

<Perry health aides are negotiating with the Obama administration on the terms of an optional Obamacare program that would allow Texas to claim stepped-up Medicaid funding for the care of people with disabilities.>


Read more: Obamacare critic Rick Perry seeks cash from law - Kyle Cheney and Maggie Haberman - POLITICO.com

I just cannot imagine why any Governor would request taxpayer money that is going to be spent on other states for his own state. How dare him ask for some of the Texan tax money sent to D.C. be returned to TX. What the hell is a matter with him as we all know that Texan tax money should go to other states.
 
The consequences if we do nothing are what we are seeing now, states doing what they want and the best healthcare in the world being used by foreign leaders around the world. What you are going to see is what every other country in the world is seeing, longer wait times, private insurance being shoved out, higher costs, and lower quality.

This really is a game for you, isn't it?

Depends are where you sit. Those who can't afford it, those who work to a living, may not see as you do.
 
Depends are where you sit. Those who can't afford it, those who work to a living, may not see as you do.

Those that cannot afford it qualify for Medicaid. They also can go to the ER's where the people of the state pay for their care not the national taxpayer. You seem to not understand either concept.
 
Those that cannot afford it qualify for Medicaid. They also can go to the ER's where the people of the state pay for their care not the national taxpayer. You seem to not understand either concept.

The Sate pays a bit, but the Federal government pays the majority of the expense...
 
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