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Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

calamity said:
I think I'd rather live in Mexico than Canada. Too cold.
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I would rather live in Texas than either Canada or Mexico. ;)

It is too "hot" in Mexico but for reasons other than the weather.
 
Boo Radley said:
Still weak. There is no tyranny in my life. None. I mean my wife can be bitchy at times, but its worth the make up sex. But no tyranny. None.
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Sure. My opinion of you has lessened. You are unaware not only of the growing tyranny around us nor your role in it.
 
calamity said:
Sorry, I'm not in fear of little brown men crossing the Rio Grande to come take my job. The militarization of our Southern Border is proof that the Right has run amok. Racist pigs.

Funny, no one talks of building a fence along the line with Canada.
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It is nearly always the racist who uses the race card. You reveal much about yourself. In my opinion not only do you have the heart of a tyrant you are a racist besides. It is a good combination for Centrists on the left.
 
Misterveritis said:
Sure. My opinion of you has lessened. You are unaware not only of the growing tyranny around us nor your role in it.
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Nice fiction, but not reality. I don't know what leads people down these conspiracy paths, but the fact remains, I face no tyranny. None. And you have not addressed that.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
I would rather live in Texas than either Canada or Mexico. ;)

It is too "hot" in Mexico but for reasons other than the weather.
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Funny is that the wealthy people in Mexico have no desire to leave it. I'd gladly move to any point along that stretch of shore from Manzanillo to Alcapulco, anytime.
 
Misterveritis said:
It is nearly always the racist who uses the race card. You reveal much about yourself. In my opinion not only do you have the heart of a tyrant you are a racist besides. It is a good combination for Centrists on the left.
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If that's what works for you, I won't spoil your fairy tale.
 
Misterveritis said:
It is nearly always the racist who uses the race card. You reveal much about yourself. In my opinion not only do you have the heart of a tyrant you are a racist besides. It is a good combination for Centrists on the left.
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Tyrants can gain power if the current government abandons it duty to govern.
 
calamity said:
Funny is that the wealthy people in Mexico have no desire to leave it. I'd gladly move to any point along that stretch of shore from Manzanillo to Alcapulco, anytime.
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Go for it. ;)
 
Boo Radley said:
Nice fiction, but not reality. I don't know what leads people down these conspiracy paths, but the fact remains, I face no tyranny. None. And you have not addressed that.
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Boo, You are a leftist, a liberal, a Progressive. You are part of the problem. I cannot help your apparent blindness. No one can. Just know that you cannot escape what has come and what is coming no matter how blind to it you pretend to be.
 
Misterveritis said:
Boo, You are a leftist, a liberal, a Progressive. You are part of the problem. I cannot help your apparent blindness. No one can. Just know that you cannot escape what has come and what is coming no matter how blind to it you pretend to be.
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You do know some of the founding fathers leaned left. In fact, it was a liberal who insisted on the words all men are created equal. Any one who so divides the world in good and bad being left and right really hasn't thought it through. The world needs both liberal and conservative thought. Few of us are all one or the other to begin with.

But, you still haven't address the facts. I face no tyranny. None.
 
Ultimately - all Obamacare can do is make medical care more expensive for everyone - because a sizable amount of the money involved goes into some insurance companies pocket.

The insurance company simply becomes a forced overhead cost.

If you want lower costs - make medical insurance illegal - and have everyone pay their own costs.

The funny thing - is the number of people who would oppose this idea - while still being "against socialized medicine".

It only gets this goofy, when you're dealing with people.
 
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onlinebiker said:
Ultimately - all Obamacare can do is make medical care more expensive for everyone - because a sizable amount of the money involved goes into some insurance companies pocket.

The insurance company simply becomes a forced overhead cost.

If you want lower costs - make medical insurance illegal - and have everyone pay their own costs.

The funny thing - is the number of people who would oppose this idea - while still being "against socialized medicine".

It only gets this goofy, when you're dealing with people.
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You can do that, but to do that, you must accept some wont get care. You have to be willing to live with that condition. Most Americans have not been.
 
Boo Radley said:
You do know some of the founding fathers leaned left. In fact, it was a liberal who insisted on the words all men are created equal. Any one who so divides the world in good and bad being left and right really hasn't thought it through. The world needs both liberal and conservative thought. Few of us are all one or the other to begin with.

But, you still haven't address the facts. I face no tyranny. None.
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In that century those who were liberal would be called conservatives today. Words are like that.

No tyranny? Try to buy something not regulated by government. I wanted to buy toilets that work. It is no longer possible. I wanted to buy showerheads that let me have a great shower. It is no longer possible. I wanted to have trees and bushes between my retaining walls. The government required that I build an unnecessary fence. I spent 500 dollars to build a fence only to tear it down after I moved in.

Tyranny is all around us. People just like you are the reason.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
If our congress continues to do nothing of importance, then someone with tyrannical aspirations can make the argument that the congress should be abolished because it does nothing.
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How do you feel about our imperial president? Isn't he an authoritarian dictator?
 
Misterveritis said:
In that century those who were liberal would be called conservatives today. Words are like that.

No tyranny? Try to buy something not regulated by government. I wanted to buy toilets that work. It is no longer possible. I wanted to buy showerheads that let me have a great shower. It is no longer possible. I wanted to have trees and bushes between my retaining walls. The government required that I build an unnecessary fence. I spent 500 dollars to build a fence only to tear it down after I moved in.

Tyranny is all around us. People just like you are the reason.
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Which means nothing. Yes, the entire world was more conservative, but for their time they were radicals. There's no meaning in saying how they would be seen today. Today they would be the radicals you had. You in that time we bemoan how liberal they were and leading the country to ruin. Each in his time.

I buy whatever I like. Safety regulations are not tyranny. There is no restriction on me preventing me from getting what I need. There are plenty of toilets, at different prices. The toilet market is doing just fine. You are not showing me any tyranny at all. Your merely ranting.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Dictators and tyrants rule with absolute power.

How can Obama be a dictator if he cannot get his policy's implemented through congress?
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Easy. He just ignores Congress and declares he has the administrative authority through his regulatory agencies.
 
And we see this tyranny where?
 
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