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Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

Conservative said:
I cannot believe how naive you are for someone your age. The answer is no Govt. social program ever cost what it was supposed to do, did what it was supposed to do, solved a problem, and left this country in better shape.
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As I've shown you before, they've done more than they are suppose to do. Until new media harmed the post office, it did an amazing job. Medicare takes on the most ill and needy, and the result is elderly Americans far better today than in the past. You are mindlessly repeating a sound bite political ad and not serious.y looking at the issue.
 
Boo Radley said:
As I've shown you before, they've done more than they are suppose to do. Until new media harmed the post office, it did an amazing job. Medicare takes on the most ill and needy, and the result is elderly Americans far better today than in the past. You are mindlessly repeating a sound bite political ad and not serious.y looking at the issue.
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The post office isn't a social program. Medicare is and is bankrupt thus costing more than intended and forcing people into this govt. entitlement program. I cannot believe how naive you really are.
 
Conservative said:
The post office isn't a social program. Medicare is and is bankrupt thus costing more than intended and forcing people into this govt. entitlement program. I cannot believe how naive you really are.
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It's a government run program. Medicare is doing far more than asked, and still the results are clear, senior citizens are better off today.
 
Buck Ewer said:
...and that historically we have valued corporate freedom to gouge a profit more than we have valued the health of our fellow human beings.
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No doubt you have sold all that you own and have distributed the proceeds to the poor.
 
Boo Radley said:
It's a government run program. Medicare is doing far more than asked, and still the results are clear, senior citizens are better off today.
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Your opinion noted but as usual you are going to believe what you want to believe. There is a better way for Seniors to get care than through a govt. run program but people like you have promoted the entitlement society so much that many including you have been brainwashed. There is a better program than medicare and the individual can do a better job managing their own healthcare issues.
 
Conservative said:
Your opinion noted but as usual you are going to believe what you want to believe. There is a better way for Seniors to get care than through a govt. run program but people like you have promoted the entitlement society so much that many including you have been brainwashed. There is a better program than medicare and the individual can do a better job managing their own healthcare issues.
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The same can be said about you. As for doing it better, by all means step up and work to make it better. But remember, before Medicare they were doing it on their own. And it wasn't better. Just remember that.
 
Buck Ewer said:
No I do not.
It would seem that perhaps you do, if you champion the entitlement of corporations to gouge a profit over the health of your fellow Americans.
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Other than the obvious hatred that all Marxists everywhere have for profits is there anything specific that bothers you about them?
 
Buck Ewer said:
Current demographic and political trends demonstrate that your prediction is really just wishful thinking. The constitution is a document that protects ALL the people not just the elite.
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I will have what he is smoking please.

Did you believe the march toward tyranny would go unhindered forever? We are on to you now and we will fight back.
 
Boo Radley said:
Nt sure the first is true, but I wouldn't count too many chickens until their hatched. Your side has been wrong about a lot lately. Might be better to let it play out. ;)
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And so we shall. We need to be as cunning and resolute as the enemies of the Constitution and the people have been. It took you many years to subvert the Constitution and it will take just as many years to restore it. The tide has turned. No longer will the liberals, the progressives, the socialists, the statists and the Marxists win every battle. We are on to you and we are ready to fight you.
 
Buck Ewer said:
I doubt that you even know what a Marxist really is.
You throw it around like a dirty word.
I do not despise people ... I despise what some people do and covet.
I reiterate;

Does that sound like something a "Marxist" would say?
You assume much and know very little.
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Your very words betray you. One sweet word uttered now and then will not save you. You can deny as you wish but you cannot conceal what you are.
 
Buck Ewer said:
The constitution will support the rights and welfare of all Americans not your narrow interpretation of elite rights and corporate welfare.
Your cries of victimization are quite comical.
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You no longer have free reign to plunder us. You are done. You will be defeated.
 
Buck Ewer said:
Perhaps you need to take trfjr's view and leave. YOU are in the minority.
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excuse me how is he in the minority what poll are you using to come to that conclusion ?
 
Boo Radley said:
The same can be said about you. As for doing it better, by all means step up and work to make it better. But remember, before Medicare they were doing it on their own. And it wasn't better. Just remember that.
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A bureaucrat has no incentive to make it better and you ought to know that. You are so brainwashed that you fail to give yourself any credit in having the ability to do it better. Medicare is bankrupt and the single payer system for All Americans will be the failure it is in Britain and Canada but people like you just cannot see it until it is too late.
 
Misterveritis said:
And so we shall. We need to be as cunning and resolute as the enemies of the Constitution and the people have been. It took you many years to subvert the Constitution and it will take just as many years to restore it. The tide has turned. No longer will the liberals, the progressives, the socialists, the statists and the Marxists win every battle. We are on to you and we are ready to fight you.
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Well, besides the excessive hyperbole, I welcome the effort from all concerned. But going back to what was worse seems like poor thinking to me. The elderly are unequivocally better off to today than before Medicare.
 
Conservative said:
A bureaucrat has no incentive to make it better and you ought to know that. You are so brainwashed that you fail to give yourself any credit in having the ability to do it better. Medicare is bankrupt and the single payer system for All Americans will be the failure it is in Britain and Canada but people like you just cannot see it until it is too late.
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And yet, they have made it better. There may be something you're missing.
 
Buck Ewer said:
The bill of rights and it's amendments say the rest.
Note that it states the GENERAL welfare... not the welfare of the elite and corporations.
Is it still obnoxious to you when it comes from the preamble?
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Do you think that gives you the right to plunder your neighbors?
 
Misterveritis said:
And so we shall. We need to be as cunning and resolute as the enemies of the Constitution and the people have been. It took you many years to subvert the Constitution and it will take just as many years to restore it. The tide has turned. No longer will the liberals, the progressives, the socialists, the statists and the Marxists win every battle. We are on to you and we are ready to fight you.
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Did you watch Coach Carter or something before you typed that? Damn, I almost stood up and saluted.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
That's why they incorporated Article 5 into the Constitution...
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Ah, A Levin fan. Very good. The states have every incentive to work for their benefit, to take back much of the power the federal government has usurped. It is our role to help the State legislatures fulfil their date with destiny and to demand a convention for proposing amendments.
 
Boo Radley said:
That would be very inefficient for most small issues that likely fall under some provision. Not everything requires an amendment. But the comment was aimed at the belief that the founding fathers would be disappointed.
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It is sufficient that we are disappointed.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Okay, except neither the insurance companies nor the hospitals want that. Nor does that even explain what the alternative realistically is in any tangible way.
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It is sufficient that we want it. The government has no business being in the health care business.
 
calamity said:
I know countless people who would start their own business if not for the high cost of personal healthcare. I also know that my company is at a disadvantage with foreign competitors in places like Western Europe because those companies do not have to carry the high overhead associated with healthcare. Many of our employees earn less per month in salary than the cost of their healthcare, for example.

BTW, I noticve you Righties always point to yourselves and say stuff like "I have health care, why don't you?" As if the world only revolved around you and I.
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Why do you believe you have the right to plunder me?
 
Boo Radley said:
And yet, they have made it better. There may be something you're missing.
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I am missing nothing, they haven't made it better but liberalism in spite of all the failures has convinced you that a single payer system will work for 312 million Americans. Wait times in Britain and Canada tell a different story when it comes to basic hospital stays, surgeries, and care.

Waiting in the wings: Single-payer health care

Medicare doesn't have 312 million participants and is bankrupt. what happens when you put all Americans on a single payer system at the mercy of the Govt? You have so much faith in the Federal Govt. which bodes the question as to why?
 
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