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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Can anyone tell me what bill passed in Congress contained these expense items? Is there any wonder why Conservatives always question proposed spending in the name of compassion?

    $4 million for the Kennedy Space Center .
    $8 million to buy cars and equipment for the Homeland Security and Justice departments.
    $20 million for a nationwide "Water Resources Priorities Study".
    $41 million for eight military bases including Guantanamo Bay .
    $56.8 million for charting the debris from last year's Japanese tsunami.
    $58.8 million for forest restoration on private land.
    $100 million for the federal Head Start day care program.
    $150 million in funding for Alaskan fisheries.
    $188 million for new Amtrak lines (not repair, whole new lines).
    $197 million "to. protect coastal ecosystems and habitat impacted by Hurricane Sandy."
    $5.3 billion to the Army Corps of Engineers (that's more than their annual budget).
    $10.78 billion for public transportation, most of which is allocated to future construction and improvements, not disaster relief.
    $13 billion would go to "mitigation" projects to prepare for future storms.
    $17 billion for wasteful Community Development Block Grants (CDBG), a program that has become notorious for its use as a backdoor earmark program.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Can anyone tell me what bill passed in Congress contained these expense items? Is there any wonder why Conservatives always question proposed spending in the name of compassion?
    Hurricane Sandy Relief Bill.

    President Obama has proposed an emergency relief bill that is intended to help with the ongoing Hurricane Sandy relief efforts. The bill, which comes to a tune of $60 billion, has endured increased criticism over the last few days — on account that roughly 20% of the bill's proposed allocations don't have much to do with storm relief..

    In spite of much needed fiscal responsibility, it appears that the federal government will continue to spend taxpayer money like the words "fiscal cliff" are inconsequential. Although much of the East Coast is still recovering from Sandy, it seems that the president's bill may be more about increasing government spending than it is about helping Sandy victims — not to mention, that through already available government funds and private donations, it may not be needed at all.

    The bill in question, among other things, provides $150 million for Alaskan fisheries and $8 million for the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice to purchase new cars and equipment. Also, an additional $13 billion of the bill would go toward projects that are designed to prepare for future storms.

    Although the bill's supposed intent is to provide emergency assistance, the Congressional Budget Office contests that only one-third of the money would be spent over the next 21 months — in turn lessening the emphasis on emergency relief. This raises brows to what exactly President Obama's true intentions are for the bill, especially when considering the timing and possible (although not likely) spending concessions that he'll have to make during the fiscal cliff negotiations.
    Hurricane Sandy Relief Bill Contains Billions in Wasteful Spending
    TANSTAAFL

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Hurricane Sandy Relief Bill.
    Exactly, you are the winner. This just goes to show that the Republicans were demonized for voting against the Hurricane Sandy relief fund when the reality is so much of the relief fund is pork. Will liberals ever apologize?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly, you are the winner. This just goes to show that the Republicans were demonized for voting against the Hurricane Sandy relief fund when the reality is so much of the relief fund is pork. Will liberals ever apologize?
    LOL!!

    No, liberals will never apologize. The best they can do is say that Republicans do it too...so it's okay.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    The disaster was caused by the Pelosi House and the Reid Senate. Pelosi is gone, which is progress, but Reid is still there and (along with Obama) the greatest obstacle to a full economic recovery.
    It only took the GOP House 6 months to downgrade the economy in 2011. What magic did Pelosi pull to cause the Bush disaster in 2008 that caused McCain to hit the pause button? And why won't the House fix their Post Office blunder from 2006?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, The House doesn't have a filibuster rule so no you don't get it at all but we do. You are a typical Obama supporter
    Next time I'll spell it out more clearly for ya. I didn't think one so esteemed would need to be told it was the "Senate" who filibusters. And to think you assclowns didn't think that happened between 09-11. You do bring up a good point. The House has its own filibuster, the Hastert rule.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It only took the GOP House 6 months to downgrade the economy in 2011. What magic did Pelosi pull to cause the Bush disaster in 2008 that caused McCain to hit the pause button? And why won't the House fix their Post Office blunder from 2006?
    You keep talking about a pause button. Please explain what McCain had to do with the economic policies of Barack Obama? Further please explain why the Democrat controlled Congress(Both Houses) that took office January 2007 and held power until January 2011 didn't fix the problems with the post office that you are concerned about but you expected the GOP House with a Democrat President and Democrat Senate to fix?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Next time I'll spell it out more clearly for ya. I didn't think one so esteemed would need to be told it was the "Senate" who filibusters. And to think you assclowns didn't think that happened between 09-11. You do bring up a good point. The House has its own filibuster, the Hastert rule.
    Apparently you don't understand what spelling it out means because this is clear as Mud. Republicans filibustered nothing from 2007-2009 because Bush was in office and could have vetoed anything he didn't want. The Democrats controlled the entire Congress from January 2007 to January 2011 and during part of the Obama first term had a filibuster proof Senate. Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House during that period of time, did she use the Hastert rule?

    Do you get any unbiased news in Illinois? Obviously civics wasn't taught where you went to school

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It only took the GOP House 6 months to downgrade the economy in 2011. What magic did Pelosi pull to cause the Bush disaster in 2008 that caused McCain to hit the pause button? And why won't the House fix their Post Office blunder from 2006?
    So let me see if I have this correct, the Republicans didn't fix the Post Office blunder that happened in 2006 when they took control of one House of Congress in 2011? What exactly did the Democrats do to correct the problems you think existed when they had total control from January 2007-January 2011?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr X View Post
    But insurance companies aren't interested in your health either, they are interested in maximising profits. Fact is, the US system doesn't come out well when compared to single payer systems.
    Disagreed. Insurance companies have a vested interest in retaining public confidence in their integrity, otherwise they will lose business to competitors. Government couldn't care less about confidence in their integrity because they have a monopoly and the poor consumer has nowhere else to go. That is why the US system is superior to any single payer system.
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