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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You may want to look back on your own spew in post #892 where you trashed the D word first before throwing your continued stones from your glass house. Agitator background is sheer lunacy and removes you from serious politics, no matter how many posts you have. Your seething hatred for Obama and anyone not right-of-center can'tor be controlled.
    I trashed Obama who happens to have a "D" after his name but is no JFK Democrat and the Obama results support my position. Results don't seem to matter to people like you. You want badly to believe Obama's rhetoric while ignoring Obama results. That speaks volumes about your ability to determine what is serious politics. Because I point out the Obama results and his actions you and others call that hatred, sorry but 35 years in the business world taught me the ability to analyze results and not create hatred for the individual. It is the Obama policies that I hate and the poor results support me

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    No amount of discussion with you will amount to squat. You have your own facts. All of the things you accuse me and other posters of cannot be proven on DP posts. Keep fighting the good fight in your mind. And keep pushing people further away from you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I trashed Obama who happens to have a "D" after his name but is no JFK Democrat and the Obama results support my position. Results don't seem to matter to people like you. You want badly to believe Obama's rhetoric while ignoring Obama results. That speaks volumes about your ability to determine what is serious politics. Because I point out the Obama results and his actions you and others call that hatred, sorry but 35 years in the business world taught me the ability to analyze results and not create hatred for the individual. It is the Obama policies that I hate and the poor results support me

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    No amount of discussion with you will amount to squat. You have your own facts. All of the things you accuse me and other posters of cannot be proven on DP posts. Keep fighting the good fight in your mind. And keep pushing people further away from you.
    You are right, I have my own facts, facts from bea.gov, bls.gov, U.S. Treasury which seemed to be good enough when Clinton was in the office but apparently not now. Explain why?

    People like you and others in DP don't want facts, you want opinions to be considered facts. You want to believe rhetoric and not substance. You have no one else to blame but yourself for this failure.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Which facts? You talk in in wacko riddles. Your last three sentences are full of opinionated manure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are right, I have my own facts, facts from bea.gov, bls.gov, U.S. Treasury which seemed to be good enough when Clinton was in the office but apparently not now. Explain why?

    People like you and others in DP don't want facts, you want opinions to be considered facts. You want to believe rhetoric and not substance. You have no one else to blame but yourself for this failure.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are right, I have my own facts, facts from bea.gov, bls.gov, U.S. Treasury which seemed to be good enough when Clinton was in the office but apparently not now. Explain why?
    Which facts are relating Obama and Clinton? How would Clinton have done with this TEAloon House? Gingrich looks like a grown-up. Why are Republican governors like Walker spanking the Repub House in public?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    That was twelve years ago.
    Were camels taller then?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    In their effort to unseat the Black man with that funny name,
    Who would that be? Do you mean the Mistake? He is 1/6th black, 1/6th white and 2/3rds red.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't see government that way. I see us using government as a tool with which to control both access and costs.
    I see government using us as tools, not the other way around. Consider our nation's "approval rating" of Congress compared to each state's "approval rating" of its own incumbents. Is the American public really able to use the government as a tool? Now THAT would be unprecedented. You have more faith in government and in the voting public to come up with a workable solution and accept tough answers than I do.

    But you're right about denial of care. Few are willing to do that, which makes many if the market solutions ineffective.
    It makes market solutions political non-starters because no one has the balls to advocate for them. If they were to actually be implemented, it would be very effective.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I see government using us as tools, not the other way around. Consider our nation's "approval rating" of Congress compared to each state's "approval rating" of its own incumbents. Is the American public really able to use the government as a tool? Now THAT would be unprecedented. You have more faith in government and in the voting public to come up with a workable solution and accept tough answers than I do.



    It makes market solutions political non-starters because no one has the balls to advocate for them. If they were to actually be implemented, it would be very effective.
    Not sure the approval rating means much. They tend to think its someone other than their congress criter. Besides, with all the negative political advertising going on, it's a wonder we don't have a 0% approval rating.

    And yes, th public is. And largely that's actually how it happens. People work, push their representatives and they respond. Of course, so do business and other lobbyist grous.

    Well, I don't think we disagree on the facts on your last sentence, other than what you might call effective. It would only address have the equation.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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