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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Hey. You're the one who defends the highest budget item, by far, and wants to keep spending on it--the Military Industrial Complex. Oh, BTW, that's probably the largest, most over-bloated and wasteful aspect of that "Central Government" you conservatives always moan about.
    But what type of con is he, a neocon? Like Cheney? Or McCain? Or House Repubs who protect installations in their C. D. back home like Boehner? And there is the Paulista wing that fights the elite repup establishment. I look for the elites to quickly coalesce around Christie.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    Eisenhower is another who would be rolling in his grave at his old GOP. It stands to reason that the initial investments in infrastructure would need repair, about 50-60 years later, their lifespan. The party of ideas that helped give us the ACA and other alphabets has gone dry.
    Good Lord, people, the 842 billion dollar stimulus program was for infrastructure and every time you fill up with gasoline you pay for the roads and bridges in the excise taxes on gasoline and diesel. Where is all that money going? Think about it

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do you really believe that? Even in that statement you have errors. yes, access is important. But so is cost. It's two pronged.
    Access is irrelevant if you cannot get into the doctor for a visit. ER services increase and ER services costs are higher. We don't need a Federal program to provide people with access. States are doing it all over the country so why give the Federal Govt. extra money to spend. Yes, I not only believe it but history proves me right. Check out MA

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    Access is irrelevant if you cannot get into the doctor for a visit. ER services increase and ER services costs are higher. We don't need a Federal program to provide people with access. States are doing it all over the country so why give the Federal Govt. extra money to spend. Yes, I not only believe it but history proves me right. Check out MA
    The sky isn't falling. And frankly, if you can't afford it, you can't in. So, your solution to not having access is to not have access. Now that's logic for you. We'll adjust for any shortage, as we always have. but simply denying access to begin with isn't exactly a fix jr.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, we are in a global guerrilla war against an enemy that hides amongst a billion women and children, and sees their mission as exterminating us in total....Yeah, no need for defense at all....In fact let's just disband the military et al, and hire the boy scouts to protect the country....
    Nevermind we're chasing ignorant fanatics who are operating as if they are still in the 16th century. We could probably hold them off with a kindergarten class's lunch money.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    But what type of con is he, a neocon? Like Cheney? Or McCain? Or House Repubs who protect installations in their C. D. back home like Boehner? And there is the Paulista wing that fights the elite repup establishment. I look for the elites to quickly coalesce around Christie.
    In their effort to unseat the Black man with that funny name, they rallied around a flip-flopping vulture capitalist from a religion which is even kookier than the evangelical young earth society. So, those various factions will all form a truce by 2016, because evil incarnate will be on the Democratic ticket.

    ...and, it'll be even worse, if Hillary is the nominee.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The sky isn't falling. And frankly, if you can't afford it, you can't in. So, your solution to not having access is to not have access. Now that's logic for you. We'll adjust for any shortage, as we always have. but simply denying access to begin with isn't exactly a fix jr.
    So, if the sky isn't falling why implement a Federal Healthcare program that puts control of all that money in the hands of the bureaucrats in D.C.? You see, you believe bureaucrats adjust when the reality is bureaucrats only spend more money. What was Medicare and SS supposed to cost?

    You are someone who wants universal access thus supports universal fraud, waste, and abuse. If you truly want access then you would work within your own state to assure access for the people of your state but no, you want the Federal Govt. to create another massive entitlement program all because you cannot get the people of your state to do what you want them to do. You want to force people who don't want insurance to have it and would implement a massive bureaucratic program to do that. I call that irresponsible but I guess choice only matters when it comes to murdering a baby.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    In their effort to unseat the Black man with that funny name, they rallied around a flip-flopping vulture capitalist from a religion which is even kookier than the evangelical young earth society. So, those various factions will all form a truce by 2016, because evil incarnate will be on the Democratic ticket.

    ...and, it'll be even worse, if Hillary is the nominee.
    Got it, people who believe results matter are racists. People like you need to learn to think with the brain God gave you

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    In their effort to unseat the Black man with that funny name, they rallied around a flip-flopping vulture capitalist from a religion which is even kookier than the evangelical young earth society. So, those various factions will all form a truce by 2016, because evil incarnate will be on the Democratic ticket.

    ...and, it'll be even worse, if Hillary is the nominee.
    LOL!!

    Dude...you played just about every card in the liberal arsenal. I think you shot your wad way too soon.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The sky isn't falling. And frankly, if you can't afford it, you can't in. So, your solution to not having access is to not have access. Now that's logic for you. We'll adjust for any shortage, as we always have. but simply denying access to begin with isn't exactly a fix jr.
    I think most conservatives aren't opposed to any particular solution. Rather, I think they are opposed to the liberal desire for the central government to impose a solution. One size fits all never works and almost always makes things worse for the majority.

    Now...if you, in your State or community, want some sort of Obamacare clone, then have at it. But don't make the rest of the country follow your desires. After all, that's what America is all about.

    On the other hand, if you really must have your one size fits all, central government mandated heath care system, then there are plenty of other countries who are happy to accommodate you.
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