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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    What is amazing is that we have a 17 trillion dollar debt, debt service the 4th largest budget item and people like you still want a large central govt. and give them more money to waste. You certainly don't understand the role of the Federal Govt. and that is sad.
    Hey. You're the one who defends the highest budget item, by far, and wants to keep spending on it--the Military Industrial Complex. Oh, BTW, that's probably the largest, most over-bloated and wasteful aspect of that "Central Government" you conservatives always moan about.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Hey. You're the one who defends the highest budget item, by far, and wants to keep spending on it--Defense.
    Yeah, we are in a global guerrilla war against an enemy that hides amongst a billion women and children, and sees their mission as exterminating us in total....Yeah, no need for defense at all....In fact let's just disband the military et al, and hire the boy scouts to protect the country....
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Hey. You're the one who defends the highest budget item, by far, and wants to keep spending on it--the Military Industrial Complex. Oh, BTW, that's probably the largest, most over-bloated and wasteful aspect of that "Central Government" you conservatives always moan about.
    You are the one that doesn't understand the Constitution and the role of the govt. Eliminate the entire Defense Budget and this govt. is still over 3 trillion dollars. You are the one that doesn't have a clue. Do you understand what PROVIDE for the common defense means? How about PROMOTE the Domestic Welfare? Learn the Constitution and stop making a fool of yourself.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    You are the one that doesn't understand the Constitution and the role of the govt. Eliminate the entire Defense Budget and this govt. is still over 3 trillion dollars. You are the one that doesn't have a clue. Do you understand what PROVIDE for the common defense means? How about PROMOTE the Domestic Welfare? Learn the Constitution and stop making a fool of yourself.
    You know, as often as you accuse others of not understanding, I wonder if its really you who don't understand? Just a consideration.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You know, as often as you accuse others of not understanding, I wonder if its really you who don't understand? Just a consideration.
    Unlike you I am willing to learn, provide me with information that proves me wrong. Stop dreaming that you did something you have never done which is refute the numbers.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hi polgara.

    This is an interesting statement here...If we are to consider Doctors in this country a business, and their daily practice in seeing patients, production. Then we are told constantly that Obamacare is not a socialist take over, because they are not taking over any means of production in this country, therefore we conservatives don't understand socialism, that meme turns to utter BS.

    Health care is 1/6th of this nations economy, and by controlling doctors, and micro managing their practices in every aspect from how many patients they see, to how much they can charge, it is totally socialist is it not?
    As a point of fact, they have not taken it over. That's just a fact. Nor are they micromanaging. We really should tone down the hyperbole.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    Unlike you I am willing to learn, provide me with information that proves me wrong. Stop dreaming that you did something you have never done which is refute the numbers.
    You haven't demonstrated that. You still make the same mistakes you have since I've know you.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You haven't demonstrated that. You still make the same mistakes you have since I've know you.
    When wrong I admit it, unlike you who are going to support a failed ideology forever. You see, all you care about is access, not service or quality. If you cared about service or quality you wouldn't be supporting Obamacare and giving the politicians a bigger slush fund.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    What gets me is that these paranoids will spend literally Trillions on imagined "threats", but they are totally blind to the obvious, the crumbling of the nation all around them. They seem to think building bombs will save them while ignoring the decay of everything from Interstate bridges to the electrical grid, from the inner cities to the middle class, from the health and welfare of our youth to their education. Freaking idiots.
    Eisenhower is another who would be rolling in his grave at his old GOP. It stands to reason that the initial investments in infrastructure would need repair, about 50-60 years later, their lifespan. The party of ideas that helped give us the ACA and other alphabets has gone dry.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    When wrong I admit it, unlike you who are going to support a failed ideology forever. You see, all you care about is access, not service or quality. If you cared about service or quality you wouldn't be supporting Obamacare and giving the politicians a bigger slush fund.
    Do you really believe that? Even in that statement you have errors. yes, access is important. But so is cost. It's two pronged.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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