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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    How about both, along with local taxes? All states are different, a continued travesty of the 10th amendment. We'll always have separate and unequal schools. Our school depends more on state aid than most, with a little from federal and the rest local.

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    Do you understand who funds teachers' salaries, Federal or state taxes?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    What people don't understand is that access does not assure either service or quality and although it appeals to those who think with their hearts it is totally unattainable to have a universal healthcare program for 312 million Americans in 50 independent states. What this will do is give the govt. more money to waste, I mean spend, on programs that keep and make people dependent just like they have done with SS and Medicare. Although most who support UHC seem to be people with good hearts they seem to lack the brain power to see this is nothing more than a scheme to provide for more spending and more control since quality healthcare and service aren't even being considered.
    Good evening, Conservative.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    My post didn't involve teachers. Admins and grandfathers are paid out of TRS and the other 4 public pensions also and are a big part of the problem. Less and less money goes to schools each year. Draconian measures are on the way, not by choice.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    I've noticed a whole lot more edginess this year among the providers, especially the employees. Our local hospital was bought out by the Sisters in Peoria. We now see signs that patient misbehavior will not be tolerated. Pressure is being put on the doctors and nurses and they are breaking down.
    There has got to be a reason why hospitals are merging with each other. It can't be entirely to save money, because they seem to be shorthanded. The last thing a sick or injured person needs is to be handled by a overworked, tired hospital worker who is asked to work a double shift because someone has called in sick! My neighbor is a nurse, and her work week averages about 70 hours per week. That's how mistakes in medications, etc are made!

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    How about both, along with local taxes? All states are different, a continued travesty of the 10th amendment. We'll always have separate and unequal schools. Our school depends more on state aid than most, with a little from federal and the rest local.
    The responsibility for your schools is your state and local community, not the taxpayers of another state or local community.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    Good evening, Conservative.

    Excellent post!
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    In neighboring and more sensible Iowa, all the money comes in from the entire state. It is then redistributed in a more fair way. They also have open enrollment between neighboring public schools as do other states. All 5 public pensions are in one pool. I was there for 3 years and still wonder.
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    The responsibility for your schools is your state and local community, not the taxpayers of another state or local community.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Noone is asking for another state. Illinois is a "donor" state like most Blue states.
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    The responsibility for your schools is your state and local community, not the taxpayers of another state or local community.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Noone is asking for another state. Illinois is a "donor" state like most Blue states.
    Federal tax dollars do not fund school districts, property, sales, and other state taxes do. When a state is called a donor state it relates to Federal taxes not state and local taxes.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    In neighboring and more sensible Iowa, all the money comes in from the entire state. It is then redistributed in a more fair way. They also have open enrollment between neighboring public schools as do other states. All 5 public pensuions are in one pool. I was there for 3 years and still wonder.
    That is the way it is supposed to work however Obama used some of the Stimulus money to bail out union contracts in some states.

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