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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    None of that is the responsibility of the federal govt. Protection from invasion is.
    Wake me us when we get invaded.

    In the meantime, I'd like to see a little upgrade in our transportation system and information highway.

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    Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Whatever...
    What didn't I answer? Before getting pissy, explain your point or what information you're seeking. In my case, assuming everything is medically necessary, I pay every penny up to $1,000, then 20 cents on the dollar until I've spent $3,500, then nothing.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Amen to this one too. Along with a farm bill, the electical grid, continuing resolution, debt-ceiling, the end to the repub drama queens in congress and something with immigration.
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    Wake me us when we get invaded.

    In the meantime, I'd like to see a little upgrade in our transportation system and information highway.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    What didn't I answer? Before getting pissy, explain your point or what information you're seeking. In my case, assuming everything is medically necessary, I pay every penny up to $1,000, then 20 cents on the dollar until I've spent $3,500, then nothing.
    I think he's speaking of an itemized list that shows some costs lowered for insurance. Or something along those lines.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Why do you think the charges are so high? Why are providers allowed to rip off us good people and the insurance companies?
    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good evening, AP.

    Having recently been involved in a hospital stay that required surgery for a fractured bone, I can state that I was shocked at the amount that was actually paid versus what was charged! Not that I am complaining, but who is the culprit here? My out of pocket was actually reasonable!
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    One pundit has suggested that we want medical care that is affordable, accessible, and of high quality; we can have two out of three. I think he may be right. For those of us who live along the northern border, the Canadian health system is a real boon because medical professionals who are good enough to compete come here to practice, and Canadians wealthy enough to pay for their care come down here to get it.
    What people don't understand is that access does not assure either service or quality and although it appeals to those who think with their hearts it is totally unattainable to have a universal healthcare program for 312 million Americans in 50 independent states. What this will do is give the govt. more money to waste, I mean spend, on programs that keep and make people dependent just like they have done with SS and Medicare. Although most who support UHC seem to be people with good hearts they seem to lack the brain power to see this is nothing more than a scheme to provide for more spending and more control since quality healthcare and service aren't even being considered.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The salaries of all teachers and the public pensioneers above $75,000 a year are public record. Most of those 75ers are admins or rich repub suburban teachers. We have over 3,000 grandfathers, averaging $200,000 a year. These are not teachers. This is $0.6 billion a year and cannot be sustained.
    Do you understand who funds teachers' salaries, Federal or state taxes?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    That was twelve years ago.
    Yep, the camels died only to be replaced by other camels. My bet is you would be the first one calling for an increase in defense spending if one of your own was killed by one of those camels. You don't seem to grasp the reality that radical Islam wants you dead therefore whose responsibility is it to prevent that from happening?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Why do you think the charges are so high? Why are providers allowed to rip off us good people and the insurance companies?
    Good evening, NIMBY.

    I'm not certain that the providers are entirely at fault here. Too many doctors are getting out of the business at the worst possible time, because Obamacare is adding millions of people who were never insured before. When someone sitting in DC can decide how much a doctor may charge, how much time is your doctor going to have to spend with you when they need to see X amount of people per day just to make their overhead? Not going to turn out well for the average person, IMO. :

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    I've noticed a whole lot more edginess this year among the providers, especially the employees. Our local hospital was bought out by the Sisters in Peoria. We now see signs that patient misbehavior will not be tolerated. Pressure is being put on the doctors and nurses and they are breaking down.
    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good evening, NIMBY.

    I'm not certain that the providers are entirely at fault here. Too many doctors are getting out of the business at the worst possible time, because Obamacare is adding millions of people who were never insured before. When someone sitting in DC can decide how much a doctor may charge, how much time is your doctor going to have to spend with you when they need to see X amount of people per day just to make their overhead? Not going to turn out well for the average person, IMO. :

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