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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Well comparatively speaking you have fairly well reasoned arguments, but realize the pro-UHC crowd in general seems really geeked about universal access and not really aware of a need for cost-control or how to achieve it. Even as a libertarian I'd rather have a cost-controlled government system than our cost-uncontrollable status quo. What we have right now is disastrous, with or without PPACA.
    Actually costs for the insurers is controlled quite well. Have you ever looked at the details of what is accepted after you've seen a doctor or had a procedure?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Actually costs for the insurers is controlled quite well. Have you ever looked at the details of what is accepted after you've seen a doctor or had a procedure?
    I'm not sure what you mean.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean.
    Have you ever looked at the details of what your insurance actually pays after you've seen the doctor?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    It's not about last word. It's about actually showing your position. Just saying it isn't evidence.
    No. It is about the last word. You enjoy it.

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    Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Have you ever looked at the details of what your insurance actually pays after you've seen the doctor?
    Well I think so. For me it pays exactly nothing until I've spent a grand, and then it pays 80/20 until I've spent $3,500 out of pocket, and then it pays for virtually any damn thing. And my employer pays 100% of my premiums, which I'm told amounts to about $1,100 a month (and I'm in the 25-29 yr old bracket and healthy/fit).

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Well I think so. For me it pays exactly nothing until I've spent a grand, and then it pays 80/20 until I've spent $3,500 out of pocket, and then it pays for virtually any damn thing. And my employer pays 100% of my premiums, which I'm told amounts to about $1,100 a month (I'm in the 25-29 bracket and healthy/fit).
    The issue is not what you or your employers pays, it is about what insurance companies pay to providers..
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The issue is not what you or your employers pays, it is about what insurance companies pay to providers..
    And I think I described that, assuming everything my provider provided was alleged to be "medically necessary."

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    And I think I described that, assuming everything my provider provided was alleged to be "medically necessary."
    Whatever...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The issue is not what you or your employers pays, it is about what insurance companies pay to providers..
    Good evening, AP.

    Having recently been involved in a hospital stay that required surgery for a fractured bone, I can state that I was shocked at the amount that was actually paid versus what was charged! Not that I am complaining, but who is the culprit here? My out of pocket was actually reasonable!

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