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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Not even close. 3-to-1 on cuts/revenue is not getting all you want Obama. But with all Repup can-di-date loons raising their hand against 10-1, what do you expect? It takes 2 to make 3 as my Air Force Dad used to say. Repups are repulsed at the thought of compromise with RINO Obama.
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    Any shutdown is the responsibility of the President and it seems that the only compromise that a liberal will accept is giving them everything they want.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Did you know that we can fix all of that, by having everyone in one National Healthcare System? See, we solved that problem easily and thanks for making my point about many versus one.
    But "we" got PPACA added on instead of UHC because that is what the demorats (and lobbyists) wanted us to have and the republicants were unable to stop them. Thanks for making my point as well.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Oh it will works about as well as most half-assed efforts. The US is full of those. You could even say the US is one of those.
    You could say anything....You'd be laughably wrong....But you could say it...
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I know you are used to having someone else provide you with everything you want, but healthcare is your responsibility, not mine or any other Federal taxpayer
    What you "know" is incorrect, and Healthcare is a societal need, as is public health, food safety, drug safety, clean air and water, and national security. Simply because men 220 years ago couldn't accurately predict our needs today doesn't mean we should ignore those needs. It isn't their world, it's ours.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That is why we have charity.

    And history shows it didn't work well. If I remember my history right, it was charities who spoke the loudest for needing government help.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You could say anything....You'd be laughably wrong....But you could say it...
    I wish I was, but I'm not.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Oh but I do. This getting them on the record manure became an artform of Reagan. We read you. Besides, your team's unprecedented use of the filibuster is already in current history books.

    Reid wants to go to conference, Repuppies in the House don't. Stalemate.
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    Again, you show how little you know. If a bill has a poison pill then the Senate under Democrat Control would remove it but Reid is preventing the bills to get to the floor for debate. That is obstructionist. Harry Reid doesn't want Democrats on the record with any of those bills he is holding up for fear they will cause greater losses in 2014. You simply don't have a clue what you are talking about again

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And history shows it didn't work well. If I remember my history right, it was charities who spoke the loudest for needing government help.
    You'll have to be more specific.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That may have been the case in the beginning, before the raiding of these programs that congress did for their own pet projects. However, I would say that today, what we have is a promise that in the long run can not be fulfilled, therefore those generations that come up on the age where they are supposed to reap the benefit of their promise made through out their life, and all the money taken through the force of government may not come to fruition for them, I may be in that category, and I can tell ya, I won't be all too happy when they have forced me my whole life to pay for something that they spent and is now gone because they couldn't keep their hands off it.

    But, in any case let me just ask you, if this program would have been based on truly voluntary involvement, would it have succeeded?
    Rail against the raids, and my join you. But it is false that it can't be sustained. We will have to weather the boomers. But, if we plan properly, and get smarter (UHC), we can do the job.

    It'll help with your disappointment as well by making sure it continues.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You seem to have a vision of a large central govt. providing you everything you want. That never was the purpose of the Federal Govt. and until you understand that you will always lack credibility. All this outrage over business but none over the 3.77 trillion dollar Federal Govt. and 17 trillion dollar debt. That says it all about you and other liberals.
    Quit trying to tell me what have when you can't even follow your own flawed logic. I'm not calling for anything that can't be paid for. And if it's paid for, it doesn't grow the debt.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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