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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    1) Dems and Unions in Detroit--got it. 2) Overfunding at too fast a pace now since previous underfunding. Red towns are suffering more than Red elites. 3) Illinois is screwed. Only draconian measures will save us. We have no guts for that. 4) Christie/NOOT 2016

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    And are those Post Office matching funds not intended to compensate for earlier underfunding? My post was not meant as a cheap shot on Illinois, just a statement of fact, and I blame both parties. That situation is different from Detroit, where Dems & unions have 100% of the responsibility.[/QUOTE]

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    NO. it is there only when you need it. I think you still need the food you mentioned every day. Totally different measurable of the economy. Different fluidities. Why do you Cons on health-care run away from the Car Insurance example and connection. Should I pay for the medical bills of uninsured on purpose?
    To take your last question first, yes. I prefer to pay via my insurance premiums for emergency room care for the uninsured. The car insurance example is invalid because purchase of an automobile is not mandatory.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    At some point in our lives we are going to utilize healthcare in some shape form or fashion no matter what. Why people don't want to figure out a better way to fund this I don't know.
    Intelligent people and governments do.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    It is nothing like you describe, although I understand the advocacy to turn it into this. It would be a revolutionary change to turn it into a communal service.

    Emergency response to accident/injury may seem communal akin to police and fire, but the hundreds of billions spent on end of life comfort care, symptom management, prescription drugs, etc.? No that is not communal.

    Health insurance is not even really insurance (ie it breaks all the rules that make insurance workable) and that is why it has failed.
    All that list effect the community. If you follow he history you will see that each change was brought in response to what the community couldn't live with. I'll and injured people living without care was rightly unacceptable. Seeing the elderly suffering in poverty was also unacceptable. The culture of th time did not prevent this. People working through government made it better.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    So you support liberal bangers shooting it up in the hood and not having insurance at the E.R. Or the incredibly obese who choose not to take care of themselves and then choose to not insure themselves at the E.R. I remember Romney saying you couldn't skate until you're 45 and then jump in. I agree.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    To take your last question first, yes. I prefer to pay via my insurance premiums for emergency room care for the uninsured. The car insurance example is invalid because purchase of an automobile is not mandatory.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    1) Dems and Unions in Detroit--got it. 2) Overfunding at too fast a pace now since previous underfunding. Red towns are suffering more than Red elites. 3) Illinois is screwed. Only draconian measures will save us. We have no guts for that. 4) Christie/NOOT 2016
    Christie yes. Newt no. Try this:
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    Susana Martinez is the 31st and current Governor of New Mexico. Martinez, a Republican since 1995, is the first female governor of New Mexico and the first female Hispanic governor in the United States. Wikipedia

    Born: July 14, 1959 (age 54), El Paso, TX

    Office: Governor of New Mexico since 2011

    Education: University of Oklahoma College of Law, University of Texas at El Paso, University of Oklahoma
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    So you support liberal bangers shooting it up in the hood and not having insurance at the E.R. Or the incredibly obese who choose not to take care of themselves and then choose to not insure themselves at the E.R. I remember Romney saying you couldn't skate until you're 45 and then jump in. I agree.
    I would rather subsidize the freeloaders than burden the citizenry with a new obligation.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Public health is not individual health care. Nice try. I pay for police and fire, but I'm responsible to lock my doors and eliminate fire hazards.
    Individual care bleeds over into the community. Illness spreads. Untreated injuries breed other problems. And no where did I say otherwise concerning responsibility. But there will be poor. There will be working poor. And it effects the public as a whole if we don't plan to adequately handle their health needs.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    I know all about her and Sandoval from Nevada. They are RINOs and could not have broken into the Dem hierarchy. Both are very good, and are smart enough to accept ACA for their people and get reelected. NOOT is a man of vision, a political TESLA of his times. He knows the gov't, if Christie went down.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Christie yes. Newt no. Try this:
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    Susana Martinez is the 31st and current Governor of New Mexico. Martinez, a Republican since 1995, is the first female governor of New Mexico and the first female Hispanic governor in the United States. Wikipedia

    Born: July 14, 1959 (age 54), El Paso, TX

    Office: Governor of New Mexico since 2011

    Education: University of Oklahoma College of Law, University of Texas at El Paso, University of Oklahoma

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Do you support laws that are on the books? Or just cherry-pick what you don't like and threaten a TEApee insurrection to hurt the economy as with July/2011? The ACA is full of good Repup ideas. The whole concept came from "you people".
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I would rather subsidize the freeloaders than burden the citizenry with a new obligation.

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