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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    You never ran a business, have you? They have cost more than intended and have made people dependent but you are right, they have given the govt. a huge slush fund that helped create the unfunded mandates. And by the way the Post Office isn't a social program but it is broke
    Quit changing he subject. Government isn't business and business would love to remove health care from their domain.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    And that people have come to count on them has created a culture of dependency for our seniors, not to mention that this is not a voluntary proposition....
    I gave testimony, and you counter with this. I'm sure you won't seethe difference.

    That said, the entire culture of dependency nonsense is just that, nonsense. We saw very poor conditions for the elderly prior to this. Working together, we improved those conditions. That's a good thing.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    Quit changing he subject. Government isn't business and business would love to remove health care from their domain.
    Problem is that business would love to get rid of all overhead, then talent could be compensated on ability rather than hidden compensation. But, that isn't the world we live in, and not the one that Obama is promising either. Or at least what he was promising....But we are finding out alot of lies in this turd.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I gave testimony, and you counter with this. I'm sure you won't seethe difference.

    That said, the entire culture of dependency nonsense is just that, nonsense. We saw very poor conditions for the elderly prior to this. Working together, we improved those conditions. That's a good thing.
    Ponzi schemes always look wonderful until the jig is up.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    And by the way the Post Office isn't a social program but it is broke
    So why won't the House fix a mess they made in late 2006 with the post office pe3nsion. Just before Nancy. Did she nsurvive that attempt on her life by the Sheriff, colloquially?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    We have both had our say. You get the last word.
    It's not about last word. It's about actually showing your position. Just saying it isn't evidence.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    Quote Originally Posted by conservative View Post
    so why won't the house fix a mess they made in late 2006 with the post office pe3nsion. Just before nancy. Did she nsurvive that attempt on her life by the sheriff, colloquially?
    As I understand it, all the Congress did in 2006 was compel the Post Office to actually fund the pension obligations to which they were already committed. Seems wise to me. Otherwise you get Detroit or -- coming soon -- Illinois.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The National Guared must become a true Force at home, as I detailed before this forum. I'm just not organized enough to reproduce. Incorporate returning soldiers. Use elite-trained groups to be 1st-responder to natural disasters. Use specially-trained to ALL borders.
    Interesting thoughts, but that's not the question I was answering.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Problem is that business would love to get rid of all overhead, then talent could be compensated on ability rather than hidden compensation. But, that isn't the world we live in, and not the one that Obama is promising either. Or at least what he was promising....But we are finding out alot of lies in this turd.
    I'm nit defending Obama. I'm talking about a single payer system. Government isn't a business. It isn't designed to make profit, but to serve the people. People create governments to handle larger problems. Problems change overtime, but role is the same. In our system government functions under the will of the governed. We can vote anyone out. The thing I dislike is losers demonize the winners far too much.

    But, the point is in this discussion is that we as a people improved the lot of the elderly by working through government.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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