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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That you reject the reports from these other utopia's that you think are out there, where for example, a simple hip replacement has a wait time of 10 months, how many of the other countries have populations of 320 million to deal with?
    No one is talking about utopia. And you cherry pick information. The last time you brought that up I showed our waits are compareable, better if you're richer, and worse if you're poorer. No ne waits for emergent or serious care. And waits in one country doesn't equal waits in all countries. You always skip that as well. I should not have to repeat this each time we talk.

    And we don't take every acient to one place. We're quite capable of breaking down areas. So size has virtually no effect on this. It can be managed in a very logical and rational and effiecent manner.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Hardly. Nothing I'm asking for suggests less service or low quality. Don't project.
    You would never suggest that because you continue to ignore history and remain naive, gullible, and poorly informed.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No one is talking about utopia. And you cherry pick information. The last time you brought that up I showed our waits are compareable, better if you're richer, and worse if you're poorer. No ne waits for emergent or serious care. And waits in one country doesn't equal waits in all countries. You always skip that as well. I should not have to repeat this each time we talk.

    And we don't take every acient to one place. We're quite capable of breaking down areas. So size has virtually no effect on this. It can be managed in a very logical and rational and effiecent manner.
    You are absolutely amazing, never wrong and always an expert on every subject. Your total defiance of history is second to none

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You would never suggest that because you continue to ignore history and remain naive, gullible, and poorly informed.
    No, name calling and being snarky doesn't make you accurate. Sorry. There is no reason quality has to suffer. We're only talking about a payer.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are absolutely amazing, never wrong and always an expert on every subject. Your total defiance of history is second to none
    I'm following you lead. Despite your constant errors, show me you admitting error?

    So, it's another pot to kettle moment with you. Stop projecting.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, name calling and being snarky doesn't make you accurate. Sorry. There is no reason quality has to suffer. We're only talking about a payer.
    Do you think that Medicaire and private coverage provide equal care?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do you think that Medicaire and private coverage provide equal care?
    Depends on the private insurance.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Depends on the private insurance.
    Generally.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Depends on the private insurance.
    Private insurance is now somewhat of an oxymoron considering that the PPACA law now defines, via gov't fiat, what constitutes a compliant "private" medical care insurance policy, sets (minmum and maximum) coverage standards and even levies a tax/fine if one is not covered by such a policy.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Generally.
    Generally. Many are uninsured. Others are seriously under insured. And yes, some have excellent insurance. Overall, if we averaged, Medicare would hold up pretty well. And that's with them being asked to handle the population most likely to be I'll or injured.

    But it doesn't have to be either or. A two tiered system would allow for those with money to buy more. The wealthy will always be able to buy more. Only with this the working poor would have adequate care.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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