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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Either I am having problems with the link, which is possible because I sometimes view news articles on my mobile phone instead
    Of a computer, or the link does not have specific details, but I still cannot find any specifics about which 15 bills the article talks about.
    Why is that relevant for it isn't up to you or me to debate the merits of the bill. The point is why were those bills held up in the first place?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    Why is that relevant for it isn't up to you or me to debate the merits of the bill. The point is why were those bills held up in the first place?
    If I don't know which specific bills were held up, I cannot find out what is in the bills that would lead to them to being held up.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    If I don't know which specific bills were held up, I cannot find out what is in the bills that would lead to them to being held up.
    For example I looked up one of the forgotton 15

    H.R. 910 (112th): Energy Tax Prevention Act of 2011

    The summary of the title is as follows

    To amend the Clean Air Act to prohibit the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency from promulgating any regulation concerning, taking action relating to, or taking into consideration the emission of a greenhouse gas to address climate change, and for other purposes
    Energy Tax Prevention Act of 2011 (2011; 112th Congress H.R. 910) - GovTrack.us

    Jobs bill? This sounds like a bill to prevent the EPA from regulating air pollution to me.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    If I don't know which specific bills were held up, I cannot find out what is in the bills that would lead to them to being held up.
    Harry Reid held them up and that is the issue. Any bill passed by the House or the Senate should be allowed on the floor for debate regardless of the party in charge.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    For example I looked up one of the forgotton 15

    H.R. 910 (112th): Energy Tax Prevention Act of 2011

    The summary of the title is as follows



    Energy Tax Prevention Act of 2011 (2011; 112th Congress H.R. 910) - GovTrack.us

    Jobs bill? This sounds like a bill to prevent the EPA from regulating air pollution to me.
    We have state EPA's that should regulate state activity, this is a jobs bill and the EPA is a jobs killer and a Federal overreach

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    For example I looked up one of the forgotton 15

    H.R. 910 (112th): Energy Tax Prevention Act of 2011

    The summary of the title is as follows



    Energy Tax Prevention Act of 2011 (2011; 112th Congress H.R. 910) - GovTrack.us

    Jobs bill? This sounds like a bill to prevent the EPA from regulating air pollution to me.
    The House needs to withhold funds from the EPA. Anyone writing new regulations needs to go. Anyone who has ever written a regulation needs to go. Anyone harassing conservatives needs to go. Eliminate all funds for travel. Eliminate all enforcement personnel.

    Now that would be a jobs bill.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    We have state EPA's that should regulate state activity, this is a jobs bill and the EPA is a jobs killer and a Federal overreach
    Not all states share the same enviromental concerns, and they do not always cooperate with other states out of mutual common ground.

    Here is another law written along the same grounds

    Clean Water Cooperative Federalism Act of 2011 (2011; 112th Congress H.R. 2018) - GovTrack.us

    To amend the Federal Water Pollution Control Act to preserve the authority of each State to make determinations relating to the State's water quality standards, and for other purposes.
    Some states share the same sources of water. How can one garrentee the standard water quality if there are 50 different standards

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The House needs to withhold funds from the EPA. Anyone writing new regulations needs to go. Anyone who has ever written a regulation needs to go. Anyone harassing conservatives needs to go. Eliminate all funds for travel. Eliminate all enforcement personnel.

    Now that would be a jobs bill.
    Your state's pollution can enter my state. Can I sue?
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    With Democrat Support and Democrats had total control from 2007-2010 and expanded it. Where is your outrage?
    I don't particularly like some of them either. Hence the "Centrist".

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The House needs to withhold funds from the EPA. Anyone writing new regulations needs to go. Anyone who has ever written a regulation needs to go. Anyone harassing conservatives needs to go. Eliminate all funds for travel. Eliminate all enforcement personnel.

    Now that would be a jobs bill.
    Why? Don't good Stewards of the environment protect it?

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