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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    If that's what works for you, I won't spoil your fairy tale.
    It is not spoiled. Your words betray you.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    Tyrants can gain power if the current government abandons it duty to govern.
    We have already had a coup. Explain your statement please.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Boo, You are a leftist, a liberal, a Progressive. You are part of the problem. I cannot help your apparent blindness. No one can. Just know that you cannot escape what has come and what is coming no matter how blind to it you pretend to be.
    You do know some of the founding fathers leaned left. In fact, it was a liberal who insisted on the words all men are created equal. Any one who so divides the world in good and bad being left and right really hasn't thought it through. The world needs both liberal and conservative thought. Few of us are all one or the other to begin with.

    But, you still haven't address the facts. I face no tyranny. None.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Ultimately - all Obamacare can do is make medical care more expensive for everyone - because a sizable amount of the money involved goes into some insurance companies pocket.

    The insurance company simply becomes a forced overhead cost.

    If you want lower costs - make medical insurance illegal - and have everyone pay their own costs.

    The funny thing - is the number of people who would oppose this idea - while still being "against socialized medicine".

    It only gets this goofy, when you're dealing with people.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    Ultimately - all Obamacare can do is make medical care more expensive for everyone - because a sizable amount of the money involved goes into some insurance companies pocket.

    The insurance company simply becomes a forced overhead cost.

    If you want lower costs - make medical insurance illegal - and have everyone pay their own costs.

    The funny thing - is the number of people who would oppose this idea - while still being "against socialized medicine".

    It only gets this goofy, when you're dealing with people.
    You can do that, but to do that, you must accept some wont get care. You have to be willing to live with that condition. Most Americans have not been.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    We have already had a coup. Explain your statement please.
    If our congress continues to do nothing of importance, then someone with tyrannical aspirations can make the argument that the congress should be abolished because it does nothing.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You do know some of the founding fathers leaned left. In fact, it was a liberal who insisted on the words all men are created equal. Any one who so divides the world in good and bad being left and right really hasn't thought it through. The world needs both liberal and conservative thought. Few of us are all one or the other to begin with.

    But, you still haven't address the facts. I face no tyranny. None.
    In that century those who were liberal would be called conservatives today. Words are like that.

    No tyranny? Try to buy something not regulated by government. I wanted to buy toilets that work. It is no longer possible. I wanted to buy showerheads that let me have a great shower. It is no longer possible. I wanted to have trees and bushes between my retaining walls. The government required that I build an unnecessary fence. I spent 500 dollars to build a fence only to tear it down after I moved in.

    Tyranny is all around us. People just like you are the reason.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    If our congress continues to do nothing of importance, then someone with tyrannical aspirations can make the argument that the congress should be abolished because it does nothing.
    How do you feel about our imperial president? Isn't he an authoritarian dictator?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    How do you feel about our imperial president? Isn't he an authoritarian dictator?
    Dictators and tyrants rule with absolute power.

    How can Obama be a dictator if he cannot get his policy's implemented through congress?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    In that century those who were liberal would be called conservatives today. Words are like that.

    No tyranny? Try to buy something not regulated by government. I wanted to buy toilets that work. It is no longer possible. I wanted to buy showerheads that let me have a great shower. It is no longer possible. I wanted to have trees and bushes between my retaining walls. The government required that I build an unnecessary fence. I spent 500 dollars to build a fence only to tear it down after I moved in.

    Tyranny is all around us. People just like you are the reason.
    Which means nothing. Yes, the entire world was more conservative, but for their time they were radicals. There's no meaning in saying how they would be seen today. Today they would be the radicals you had. You in that time we bemoan how liberal they were and leading the country to ruin. Each in his time.

    I buy whatever I like. Safety regulations are not tyranny. There is no restriction on me preventing me from getting what I need. There are plenty of toilets, at different prices. The toilet market is doing just fine. You are not showing me any tyranny at all. Your merely ranting.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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