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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Need you can never be sure of. Never. Each of us is one accident or illness away from ruin. It's a false idea that there is no need. Want? Why you wouldn't want to be responsible escapes me. But the cheapest way to pay for this is through taxes and not insurance premiums.
    Actually the cheapest way is by using cash, leaving out the insurance middle man (and the associated paperwork) entirely. PPACA does not allow that w/o a tax penalty.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    No, that's your impression of it. There is no reason why insurance has to do that. Find me a law on the contract law statutes that say that insurance must be immediately available upon payment.

    You're going to fail.
    Insurance is the equitable transfer of the risk of a loss, from one entity to another in exchange for payment.
    You pay money, you reduce your risk. That's the immediate benefit.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Actually the cheapest way is by using cash, leaving out the insurance middle man (and the associated paperwork) entirely. PPACA does not allow that w/o a tax penalty.
    Again, this leaves out the working poor. Yes, it is cheaper not to give care to the working poor. But not cheap enough to include them. And no, I can still and do pay cash. I also have insurance. Is the responsive thing to do as I will never have enough cash to afford anything major or long lasting.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    So tell me how much money should the taxpayers fund for defense of this country?
    Defense of this country? We're not under any threat. GMAFB.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    Defense of this country? We're not under any threat. GMAFB.
    So, your answer is ZERO?
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Defense of this country? We're not under any threat. GMAFB.
    That doesn't answer my question and how do you know we aren't under any threat? What is the defense of this country and your life style worth to you? How much money should be in the budget for defense?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    That doesn't answer my question and how do you know we aren't under any threat? What is the defense of this country and your life style worth to you? How much money should be in the budget for defense?
    Our biggest threat is crumbling infrastructure and degradation of services like sewer, water and electric. If you want to know what that's like, visit India.

    As far as being attacked by any credible outside source--not just terrorism from a paranoid Right Winger---I'd say chances of that happening in my lifetime is 0.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Our biggest threat is crumbling infrastructure and degradation of services like sewer, water and electric. If you want to know what that's like, visit India.
    That doesn't answer the question, how much should the defense budget of the U.S. be in your world? As for your statement, you still have no idea what pays for those items and whose responsibility it is. This really is sad, you are a liberal elites dream

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    So, your answer is ZERO?
    We could get by on a 1/4 of what we spend today. Easily.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    That doesn't answer the question, how much should the defense budget of the U.S. be in your world? As for your statement, you still have no idea what pays for those items and whose responsibility it is. This really is sad, you are a liberal elites dream
    $200 Billion tops.

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