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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    I hear ya ... can't take that volume of comments out of context but they'll come up with something.
    None of that got broad coverage and what Reid said got damn near no coverage.
    I forget the piece of crap progressive congress critter that came out right after the party line, and bribed vote at Midnight on Christmas eve that this "law" passed on, but he also said this was just a stepping stone at the time...He's that jackass that wears the red vests at Christmas time....
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I forget the piece of crap progressive congress critter that came out right after the party line, and bribed vote at Midnight on Christmas eve that this "law" passed on, but he also said this was just a stepping stone at the time...He's that jackass that wears the red vests at Christmas time....
    ... to think it was this close to being killed. Unreal.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    I don't find it remarkable that Reid and others say that their ultimate goal is some sort of government run health care system. This view has been suspected of him and admitted by others many times. What I DO find remarkable is the fact that he will come out now and publicly express that view. This means he feels safe in making this admission instead of holding back. Does he feel like now is the time to start his push for government run health care? After all, Obamacare is being seen as a failure...heck, a downright bad thing...more and more.

    Now that Reid and others have shoved Obamacare down our throats, perhaps they think they are safe to shove their government run single payer system down our throats. Given that liberals have pretty much succeeded in convincing the People that the government is the solution to all their problems, he just might be right.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Interesting, so you think that because you post 2 links to organizations that parrot your view, and vice versa on UHC, that this constitutes what a "majority of America wants"? Talk about thinking in a bubble....
    How many 5 year old polls do you have sitting around? I remember what the polls said at the time. They were linked all across this site. As I said, you want to rewrite history.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    we should have just done that in the first place and skipped the heritage foundation private insurance plan from the 1990s.
    So why didn't they vote in single payer? Because THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES. And why didn't they have the votes? Because THE COUNTRY DOESN'T WANT IT. So what does one make of a scheme to secure an outcome which the country doesn't want by wrecking the existing insurance market and then presenting the necessity of single payer as a fait accompli?
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    How many 5 year old polls do you have sitting around? I remember what the polls said at the time. They were linked all across this site. As I said, you want to rewrite history.
    Polls? I think anyone being asked about the individual goodies once they have them, will say that they like them, that doesn't however mean that this steaming pile of crap called the ACA is liked in its entirety.....
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Because conservatives want to rewrite history:

    Two-thirds of Americans support Medicare-for-all (#3 of 6) - PNHP's Official Blog
    Healthcare-NOW! - Another Poll Shows Majority Support for Single-Payer
    What do Americans really want for healthcare insurance? Single Payer | If Liz were Queen

    I know that the right wing likes to get itself in a frenzy over the socialist boogeyman, but most Americans don't ignore obviously good reforms just because paranoid wingnuts slap a label on it and call it socialist. The rest of the first world calls it common sense. And, of course, to non-frothy wacko types, socialist doesn't mean evil. It just means different.
    If that is what "the people" wanted then why did the demorats replace that "wanted UHC" with the PPACA mess that we now must endure? Could it be the simple fact that Medicare is grossly underfunded, even while not allowing any benefits until age 65? You cannot fund 18% of the US economy with a 2% to 9.5% tax.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    How is a single payer system Socialism?

    A single payer system is merely the conduit for payments. It does not own the hospitals. It does not hire the doctors. It does not make the drugs. While it may set pricing rules, the healthcare itself is not government owned or operated. Saying single payer is Socialism is saying that having your parents pay for everything in your household is Socialism.

    TRICARE is actually Socialist where the government owns the means of production.
    TRICARE is indistinguishable from Medicare. For people who have both, TRICARE is simply Medicare supplemental insurance.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Polls? I think anyone being asked about the individual goodies once they have them, will say that they like them, that doesn't however mean that this steaming pile of crap called the ACA is liked in its entirety.....
    They don't even have to have them yet. Everybody likes the goodies. Not everybody likes the consequences.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If that is what "the people" wanted then why did the demorats replace that "wanted UHC" with the PPACA mess that we now must endure? Could it be the simple fact that Medicare is grossly underfunded, even while not allowing any benefits until age 65? You cannot fund 18% of the US economy with a 2% to 9.5% tax.
    Could it be that these left-wing polls were fraudulent?
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