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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Last I looked most "rulers" in Washington are elected by the People and call a state far far away home.
    Our rulers are in Washington DC. It is time they are all called home.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Plunder you? GMAFB.
    Are you denying that the burdens you place upon society fall mostly on me and those like me? I understand the desire of you and yours to steal, to rape, to plunder your neighbors. You "centrists" are the new slaveholders and your desire to own slaves is very great. If I am coerced into working to meet your needs for one or two days out of every work week what am I if not your slave? I toil and you benefit. Is there a more fitting definition for involuntary servitude, for slavery?

    From each according to his abilities, to each according to his need, right?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Plunder you? GMAFB.
    Do you realize that all this Spending is in the name of compassion which then justifies it to a liberal even though all that spending really does nothing but make people dependent and causes debt?

    Federal programs are ripe with waste, fraud, and abuse but because it is in the name of compassion that makes people feel good about the spending while ignoring the debt generated and dependence created.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you realize that all this Spending is in the name of compassion which then justifies it to a liberal even though all that spending really does nothing but make people dependent and causes debt?

    Federal programs are ripe with waste, fraud, and abuse but because it is in the name of compassion that makes people feel good about the spending while ignoring the debt generated and dependence created.
    But buying votes using other people's money (via income redistribution programs) is so easy and efficient. The only requirement for it to work well is to have more gov't check getting voters than tax paying voters, thus the reason for making the federal income tax system ever more progressive while adding ever more low income based entitlements.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Depends on how sickly you are. Great tax wise and gets you the preferential rate and allows you to stash away cash upon which you will be drawing interest--the same thing the insurance company does with your money.
    But you can never know in advance. Only hope.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    But you can never know in advance. Only hope.
    Doesn't matter if you get a few years contributions stashed into your account because there still is a maximum out of pocket on the policies. I bet insurance salesmen love you.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    If the government with all its advantages, all its employees, was such a great service provider (and had the full power of government behind it) ... there never would have been a need for FED EX, UPS and all the delivery services that have sprung up and taken a chunk away from the USPS.

    Medicare and Medicaid are always in the news for their problems and high costs.
    Hardly, though some of those aren't doing all that well. The change in culture heard regular mail more than anything else.

    And lots of things in the private sector are in the news for high costs as well. It actually costs a good bit to care for an aging population. Shocking. Just shocking.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wow, again, the content of the article is trumped by the source? Brilliant response as usual. Just like a typical liberal ignoring costs and reporting data that cannot be tied to Medicare but more to individual lifestyle changes.

    You will never get it so try to comprehend the following, there are 312 million Americans living in this country in 50 sovereign states and you want a program implemented in D.C. for those 312 million people? Medicare is broke so where does the money come from to provide that single payer system but more importantly where do the doctors come from that are willing to work for the Govt? Have you been paying attention at all? How many hospitals are having financial problems due to Medicare? How many doctors have stopped taking Medicare?

    What is it about liberalism that makes people unwilling to accept the reality that you could be wrong and if wrong you are destroying the system that makes this country the best in the world?
    You shouldn't use poor sources, as they usually have poor content. I both noted how it was poor, and than rebutted the content.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Have you ever wanted to do anything that the government has not already allowed you to do? For example have you ever tried to buy a toilet not designed by a government busybody bureaucrat?

    I get the impression that you believe the chains you wear are a fashion statement and not a badge of your complete servitude.
    I called my plumber and had him install a toilet. It works fine. Not seeing a problem here. No chains. No servitude. The plumber didn't even complain.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Doesn't matter if you get a few years contributions stashed into your account because there still is a maximum out of pocket on the policies. I bet insurance salesmen love you.
    Sure they do. And their main business is to collect much more money than they pay out. Not the best idea. But better than simply letting people not get the care. If you're so irresponsible as to not be adequately insured, you're part of the problem.

    And keep in mind, a universal insurer takes care of the problem you point at.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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