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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    A bureaucrat has no incentive to make it better and you ought to know that. You are so brainwashed that you fail to give yourself any credit in having the ability to do it better. Medicare is bankrupt and the single payer system for All Americans will be the failure it is in Britain and Canada but people like you just cannot see it until it is too late.
    And yet, they have made it better. There may be something you're missing.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The bill of rights and it's amendments say the rest.
    Note that it states the GENERAL welfare... not the welfare of the elite and corporations.
    Is it still obnoxious to you when it comes from the preamble?
    Do you think that gives you the right to plunder your neighbors?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    And so we shall. We need to be as cunning and resolute as the enemies of the Constitution and the people have been. It took you many years to subvert the Constitution and it will take just as many years to restore it. The tide has turned. No longer will the liberals, the progressives, the socialists, the statists and the Marxists win every battle. We are on to you and we are ready to fight you.
    Did you watch Coach Carter or something before you typed that? Damn, I almost stood up and saluted.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    That's why they incorporated Article 5 into the Constitution...
    Ah, A Levin fan. Very good. The states have every incentive to work for their benefit, to take back much of the power the federal government has usurped. It is our role to help the State legislatures fulfil their date with destiny and to demand a convention for proposing amendments.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That would be very inefficient for most small issues that likely fall under some provision. Not everything requires an amendment. But the comment was aimed at the belief that the founding fathers would be disappointed.
    It is sufficient that we are disappointed.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Okay, except neither the insurance companies nor the hospitals want that. Nor does that even explain what the alternative realistically is in any tangible way.
    It is sufficient that we want it. The government has no business being in the health care business.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    You sound like you listen to to much Rush Limbaugh--"subjects of the rulers in Washington" indeed. Sheesh.
    Where do you think the rules are?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I know countless people who would start their own business if not for the high cost of personal healthcare. I also know that my company is at a disadvantage with foreign competitors in places like Western Europe because those companies do not have to carry the high overhead associated with healthcare. Many of our employees earn less per month in salary than the cost of their healthcare, for example.

    BTW, I noticve you Righties always point to yourselves and say stuff like "I have health care, why don't you?" As if the world only revolved around you and I.
    Why do you believe you have the right to plunder me?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It is sufficient that we are disappointed.
    You are disappointed; others are not. It's a wash at worse.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And yet, they have made it better. There may be something you're missing.
    I am missing nothing, they haven't made it better but liberalism in spite of all the failures has convinced you that a single payer system will work for 312 million Americans. Wait times in Britain and Canada tell a different story when it comes to basic hospital stays, surgeries, and care.

    Waiting in the wings: Single-payer health care

    Medicare doesn't have 312 million participants and is bankrupt. what happens when you put all Americans on a single payer system at the mercy of the Govt? You have so much faith in the Federal Govt. which bodes the question as to why?

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