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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    And at the same time made it very difficult to do! Maybe those "old fogey founders" were not as unaware of human nature as many people today like to think they were?

    Good evening, AP!
    Good evening pg. They were smarter than the average person gives credit...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The answer is simple. We have no interest in being subjects of the rulers in Washington. You see that as backwards because you are a statist. I see the right to be left alone as essential. I am not part of your collective.
    You sound like you listen to to much Rush Limbaugh--"subjects of the rulers in Washington" indeed. Sheesh.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    I'm not backward in my ability to get top quality healthcare. Are you and if so why? I'm nowhere near rich or even what practically anybody would say is wealthy, so it's not a money issue. Human nature is to provide for yourself, do you have a shortcoming in that area? If so, I'd bet it was because somewhere along the line somebody convinced you other people owed you something. They don't. Or do you just feel you are better qualified and smarter than everybody else so you should decide for them what healthcare they should receive and how it is administered? Or do you just want to control people's lives like the Democrat's do?
    I know countless people who would start their own business if not for the high cost of personal healthcare. I also know that my company is at a disadvantage with foreign competitors in places like Western Europe because those companies do not have to carry the high overhead associated with healthcare. Many of our employees earn less per month in salary than the cost of their healthcare, for example.

    BTW, I noticve you Righties always point to yourselves and say stuff like "I have health care, why don't you?" As if the world only revolved around you and I.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Was there a point to your post?
    Yep. Sorry you missed the obvious. Point being... you need not try to be so pretentiously elitist as to preach to others about the intentions of the constitution when it is spelled out right there at the very top of the constitution in one single sentence. I guess the true question that arises here is why, in the midst of your preaching to others about the constitution, does your interpretation of the intention of the constitution not relate or match the preamble at all?
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    If you think corporations are bad, just wait until you meet the government.
    Funny. Government healthcare seems to work pretty well for people over 65, just when they begin using the medical world for real. Fittingly it's called Medicare.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Funny. Medicare seems to work pretty well for people over 65.
    Really? What a wonderful program it is, you are forced to pay a fixed percentage of every dollar of pay earned for your entire life for possible (constantly changing) benefits iff you reach age 65.

    http://www.cms.gov/Research-Statisti...06Winpg127.pdf
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Really? What a wonderful program it is, you are forced to pay a fixed percentage of every dollar of pay earned for your entire life for possible (constantly changing) benefits iff you reach age 65.

    http://www.cms.gov/Research-Statisti...06Winpg127.pdf
    Do you know what it was like before Medicare?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do you know what it was like before Medicare?
    Much less likely to reach age 65.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Much less likely to reach age 65.
    That's true. What else?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Do you think Obama is pure socialist? Increasing fees is just one more means of punishing the military and those who served. There is room in his evil heart for two bad things at the same time.
    Do I think Obama is a Socialist at all? No. Because, unlike you, I actually know what Socialism is. You just define it as you so please with no regards for what it means.

    It's funny how you're attacking Obama for his attempts to de-socialize Socialist medicine. The hypocrisy people have here is outrageous.
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