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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Speaking of low information voters, you sure have bought the right-wing fearmongering regarding how single-payer works!
    You need to back off on the Kool-Aid.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Anyone with a half brain knew ObamaKare was merely a step towards the Socialists of Amerika Partei's (SAPs) ultimate goal.
    How is a single payer system Socialism?

    A single payer system is merely the conduit for payments. It does not own the hospitals. It does not hire the doctors. It does not make the drugs. While it may set pricing rules, the healthcare itself is not government owned or operated. Saying single payer is Socialism is saying that having your parents pay for everything in your household is Socialism.

    TRICARE is actually Socialist where the government owns the means of production.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Speaking of low information voters, you sure have bought the right-wing fearmongering regarding how single-payer works!
    Speaking of low information voters, Diogenes doesn't even understand that a system like that is an individual pay for service, resulting in a Elysium style healthcare system. How he plans on affording healthcare when insurance no longer exists suggests to me he hasn't thought this through.

    The current private healthcare industry is responsible to the insurance company holding your policy. Not you.

    A single payer system could significantly reduce healthcare costs as the payer could depress healthcare costs simply by sheer force of weight the same way Walmart does on its products.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The majority of this country wanted single payer in the first place, rather than the profit producing smorgasbord that was Obamacare.
    What polls are you sourcing for this assertion?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    How is a single payer system Socialism?

    A single payer system is merely the conduit for payments. It does not own the hospitals. It does not hire the doctors. It does not make the drugs. While it may set pricing rules, the healthcare itself is not government owned or operated. Saying single payer is Socialism is saying that having your parents pay for everything in your household is Socialism.

    TRICARE is actually Socialist where the government owns the means of production.
    Oh kome on, Obama did it so it is klearly Socialist. Obama kould deregulate every business and it would still be socialism.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    What polls are you sourcing for this assertion?
    We'll never see them, because they don't exist.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Because conservatives want to rewrite history:

    Two-thirds of Americans support Medicare-for-all (#3 of 6) - PNHP's Official Blog
    Healthcare-NOW! - Another Poll Shows Majority Support for Single-Payer
    What do Americans really want for healthcare insurance? Single Payer | If Liz were Queen

    I know that the right wing likes to get itself in a frenzy over the socialist boogeyman, but most Americans don't ignore obviously good reforms just because paranoid wingnuts slap a label on it and call it socialist. The rest of the first world calls it common sense. And, of course, to non-frothy wacko types, socialist doesn't mean evil. It just means different.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Oh kome on, Obama did it so it is klearly Socialist. Obama kould deregulate every business and it would still be socialism.
    This forum would go up in IQ if people started using words based on their actual definitions rather than defining things as they see fit with no regards to their meanings.

    I did find it funny how the same people who bash Obama on "socialism" were attacking his proposal to make TRICARE beneficiary fees higher. Obama actively tries to make Socialist medicine less socialist and he's attacked by the same people who decry Obamacare as Socialism. Obama Derangement syndrome is just as prevalent as Bush Derangement syndrome.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    This forum would go up in IQ if people started using words based on their actual definitions rather than defining things as they see fit with no regards to their meanings.

    I did find it funny how the same people who bash Obama on "socialism" were attacking his proposal to make TRICARE beneficiary fees higher. Obama actively tries to make Socialist medicine less socialist and he's attacked by the same people who decry Obamacare as Socialism. Obama Derangement syndrome is just as prevalent as Bush Derangement syndrome.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Because conservatives want to rewrite history:

    Two-thirds of Americans support Medicare-for-all (#3 of 6) - PNHP's Official Blog
    Healthcare-NOW! - Another Poll Shows Majority Support for Single-Payer
    What do Americans really want for healthcare insurance? Single Payer | If Liz were Queen

    I know that the right wing likes to get itself in a frenzy over the socialist boogeyman, but most Americans don't ignore obviously good reforms just because paranoid wingnuts slap a label on it and call it socialist. The rest of the first world calls it common sense. And, of course, to non-frothy wacko types, socialist doesn't mean evil. It just means different.
    Interesting, so you think that because you post 2 links to organizations that parrot your view, and vice versa on UHC, that this constitutes what a "majority of America wants"? Talk about thinking in a bubble....
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