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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Joe, and to be fair progressives never really do that...They rely on catchy bumper sticker catch phrases, and then don't even know why they say them. Only that they sound snarky, and mocking, then they can turn to each other, give a fist bump, and chuckle like 5th graders in the playground.

    See, Joe doesn't need actual facts to back up his statements, he believes that just because he typed it, it becomes fact. A perfect example of why arrogance, and hubris are ultimate losers in debate.
    And when Obamacare becomes the law of the land everyone will have free, excellent health care with lower costs because that is the law of the land.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you think that Teachers, Police, and Firefighters are "the Working poor?"
    Some are, yes. Most aren't getting rich, and they have been targeted by Fox and others as leaches and the like. However, read the part you but in bold. Allow me to highlight a key word:

    . . . . OR . . .

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    The fire didnt bleed over because I put it out. But you have yet to explain how my health is your problem. Youre just repeating the same thing, that it is.
    Sure you did. All by yourself. Sure you did.

    No, i've mentioned how health is a community concern many times. Disease often spreads. And poverty breeds disease. If we allow a number to go untreated, uncared for, what they catch and let grow will leave them and move to all in the community.

    Even things as relatively minor as H1N1 influenza virus can spread very quickly and result in deaths. Imagine something worse. It can spread over into your life as fast as a fire.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Some are, yes. Most aren't getting rich, and they have been targeted by Fox and others as leaches and the like. However, read the part you but in bold. Allow me to highlight a key word:

    . . . . OR . . .
    So they are "the working poor' because they aren't getting rich?

    Have you a link to Fox News where they are targeting police, firemen or teachers?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Some are, yes. Most aren't getting rich, and they have been targeted by Fox and others as leaches and the like. However, read the part you but in bold. Allow me to highlight a key word:

    . . . . OR . . .
    Oh, wow, "targeted by Fox and others as leaches?" Project much, my little leftwing friend? How about you setting the salaries of all employees in the country by telling private and public sector business what they should pay. I am sure you are an expert on cost analysis and business in general so you know what the profit demand is for business and the public sector.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sure you did. All by yourself. Sure you did.

    No, i've mentioned how health is a community concern many times. Disease often spreads. And poverty breeds disease. If we allow a number to go untreated, uncared for, what they catch and let grow will leave them and move to all in the community.

    Even things as relatively minor as H1N1 influenza virus can spread very quickly and result in deaths. Imagine something worse. It can spread over into your life as fast as a fire.
    He could be right. Without Obamacare the bubonic plague may resurface. Or polio. Who knows what disasters are lurking just around the corner??

    Only Obamacare can save the nation from itself!

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sure you did. All by yourself. Sure you did.

    No, i've mentioned how health is a community concern many times. Disease often spreads. And poverty breeds disease. If we allow a number to go untreated, uncared for, what they catch and let grow will leave them and move to all in the community.

    Even things as relatively minor as H1N1 influenza virus can spread very quickly and result in deaths. Imagine something worse. It can spread over into your life as fast as a fire.
    So then why not deal with those issues specifically? Why control every other aspect of my health? Thats exactly the point being made here. Limited govt which deals with specific problems, vs big govt which dictates your entire life.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So they are "the working poor' because they aren't getting rich?

    Have you a link to Fox News where they are targeting police, firemen or teachers?
    It's not hard. First link of a search:

    Jim Wallis: Jon Stewart and the Sheer Hypocrisy of Fox News on Teachers

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Oh, wow, "targeted by Fox and others as leaches?" Project much, my little leftwing friend? How about you setting the salaries of all employees in the country by telling private and public sector business what they should pay. I am sure you are an expert on cost analysis and business in general so you know what the profit demand is for business and the public sector.
    I haven't told anyone. Focus.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He could be right. Without Obamacare the bubonic plague may resurface. Or polio. Who knows what disasters are lurking just around the corner??

    Only Obamacare can save the nation from itself!
    Certainly without a clear recognition, as we have, that disease is more than just an individual concern, that could happen. Don't leap ahead of what we're discussing. You said there was no community concern. I showed there is. Rebut it or agree.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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