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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    Out of ever dollar spent on public education about 7 cents comes from the Federal Govt. Tell us where that 7 cents goes and what it funds?
    Currently it's actually over 8 cents. But, your state is free to not take money no matter were it goes. Do you think your state won't feel that?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Has it? Or does history play any role? They didn't just start one day. There's a clear history that leads us to where we are, and always supported by the majority of the populace. And there is good reason to believe that even the founding fathers, had they lived that history, would have followed the same path. They weren't incapable of thought or of adjusting to problems.

    However, all that is noted here is that it is a fact that the federal government contributes funds to all three.

    You're correct, it didn't just start one day, and there is a history fraught with progressives on both sides of the isle that have been on a constant march away from the founding documents of this country for the past hundred years or better.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually it is what it states, and I can link a lot more if you need them.
    No, it specifically states what the money is for and it isn't for the day to day operations of the police, fire department, or teachers. Money coming from the Federal Govt. comes with strings and a time limit, always. States and local communities are responsible for their own police, fire departments, and teachers AS IT SHOULD BE. Why do you expect me, a Federal taxpayer to fund your police, fire fighters, and school teachers?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Currently it's actually over 8 cents. But, your state is free to not take money no matter were it goes. Do you think your state won't feel that?
    What you fail to understand is that when the Federal Govt. spends taxpayer dollars some of those dollars come from the taxpayers of the state in the form of Federal taxes paid. Why shouldn't the Governor of the state ask for some of that money back? I am still waiting for you to explain where that 8 cents goes and what it funds?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're correct, it didn't just start one day, and there is a history fraught with progressives on both sides of the isle that have been on a constant march away from the founding documents of this country for the past hundred years or better.
    Like I said, there is a reason to believe the FF would have walked the same path. They were largely progressive.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    No, it specifically states what the money is for and it isn't for the day to day operations of the police, fire department, or teachers. Money coming from the Federal Govt. comes with strings and a time limit, always. States and local communities are responsible for their own police, fire departments, and teachers AS IT SHOULD BE. Why do you expect me, a Federal taxpayer to fund your police, fire fighters, and school teachers?
    Nonsense. Money that pays one area, frees money in another. Bottom line, federal money goes to those areas.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    What you fail to understand is that when the Federal Govt. spends taxpayer dollars some of those dollars come from the taxpayers of the state in the form of Federal taxes paid. Why shouldn't the Governor of the state ask for some of that money back? I am still waiting for you to explain where that 8 cents goes and what it funds?
    That makes no difference. None.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Hardly. It'll likely spread beyond the two of you as well. Remember O'Leary's cow?
    Well now youre just using hypothetical falacys which are irrelevant to the topic anyway. How is my health and how i choose to deal with it a communal issue?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Well now youre just using hypothetical falacys which are irrelevant to the topic anyway. How is my health and how i choose to deal with it a communal issue?
    No fallacy. The fire bled over to many. That's why it is communal and not just individual. the same is true true for crime and health. these things often effect whole communities.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No fallacy. The fire bled over to many. That's why it is communal and not just individual. the same is true true for crime and health. these things often effect whole communities.
    And we've seen how 'communals' work.

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