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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You were asked a direct question, and this is textbook deflection, and obfuscation. Now answer the question.
    J, I've answered every question directly. So, I think you're just following him and not really reading the entire thread.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    UHC systems work better and cheaper in every single country that adopts them. Maybe you think America is uniquely incompetent, but I don't.
    This isn't the same country as others in the world. There aren't 312 million people in those countries living in 50 diverse states nor do those countries have the govt. regulations and administration requirements that this one has which you ignore. I wish I could figure out why you want this country to be so much like Europe and what makes you so gullible and ignorant of history?

    How does UHC benefit you and your family and how do you know since you want to ignore the cost breakdown that I provided you? Do you think that European countries have all those costs?

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Nah he just hates the US Government and the opportunities available here.
    Typical baiting and lack of reality. You think our opportunities come from the Govt? Did you start your business because of the govt? Our govt. is responsible for one thing, keeping us safe and providing equal opportunity. You want to ignore history and the actual results of a 3.77 trillion dollar Federal Govt. and the dependence it is creating. Guess that is ok with you now that you have made yours so it is ok to destroy the economic principles that allowed you to be successful.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    J, I've answered every question directly. So, I think you're just following him and not really reading the entire thread.
    That is a lie

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You have never answered the question so here it is again

    Tell me why exactly we need Obamacare and how adding 14-30 million new insurance covered people is going to lower costs, improve access, and quality?

    This has been answered a dozen times before. More insured by definition means more access. One is the other. We've also covered using other health professionals than just doctors. I've told you this and give you links many times. I've also shown how the law encourages more doctors. The AMA which currently holds the number back, will loosen to meet the need.

    So you have been answered yet again.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    This has been answered a dozen times before. More insured by definition means more access. One is the other. We've also covered using other health professionals than just doctors. I've told you this and give you links many times. I've also shown how the law encourages more doctors. The AMA which currently holds the number back, will loosen to meet the need.

    So you have been answered yet again.
    How does access improve quality and service? Do you understand how incentive works? Where is the incentive to become a doctor where your income is controlled by the Federal Govt? Why are hospitals and doctors dropping out of Medicare. You live in a dream world that doesn't exist.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is a lie
    No, it isn't. It's just easier for you to lie on the Internet. But anyone reading these threads if honest knows I have. I have many times.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How does access improve quality and service? Do you understand how incentive works? Where is the incentive to become a doctor where your income is controlled by the Federal Govt? Why are hospitals and doctors dropping out of Medicare. You live in a dream world that doesn't exist.
    Again, I've answered this before as well. A person getting no care and gets adequate care has improved care and has improved service. And as everyone is still making money, and based on volume as it always has been, there is still the same incentives as always. You truly don't understand how this works.

    And yes some are dropping out. Some will always prefer to work for the wealthy. This is true in all professions. But there are still doctors who take Medicare, and will likely be more in the future.

    I'm not sure how many times you guys want me repeating things, but I do have a limit. I expect you to remember this.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it isn't. It's just easier for you to lie on the Internet. But anyone reading these threads if honest knows I have. I have many times.
    No, it isn't a lie, history shows it isn't a lie, what makes people like you so gullible and always believing in theory while ignoring reality. There is nothing in this program that improves quality and service, not one thing. You live in a dream world. Transformation of this country into a European economic system will create the new normal of high debt, high unemployment, low economic growth, and massive dependence on the govt. where govt. spending is the largest component of GDP

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Typical baiting and lack of reality.
    It is all you ever talk about.
    You think our opportunities come from the Govt?
    I think government plays a very important role from infrastructure to the health of the nation to protecting fair business practices and more..

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