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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm not sure you guys are big on personal responsibility as you're always blaming others: the media, liberals, everyone who disagree with you (usually always that they're dumb, uneducated, hating America, lacking common sense, and whatever other name you can call them).

    But that fact is you can do everything right, and still find yourself needing medical care you cant afford on your own. It's beneficial for the country to have an efficient and sound plan to deal with public health. Needed care should be like fire and police, a public concern.
    So Obama says if you like your plan and your doctor you can keep it? How does this grab your Boo? You really are very naive

    UPS to drop 15,000 spouses from insurance, cites Obamacare - Atlanta Business Chronicle

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    Funny how the data supports us. The fact is you cannot legislate stupidity and personal responsibility. Your one size fits all always costs more than intended and provides less than other programs would provide. Take your "investment and your employers" investment in SS and put it in a simple CD over your work lifetime and see how much you would have when you retired and it would be all yours and your families.

    What I find quite perplexing is how someone with your intelligence can so easily be fooled and how gullible you are. You still haven't answered, what is in it for you?
    Actually, it rarely does. In fact, sometimes you seem factually challenged, often misrepresenting the very facts YOU post.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

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    So Obama says if you like your plan and your doctor you can keep it? How does this grab your Boo? You really are very naive

    UPS to drop 15,000 spouses from insurance, cites Obamacare - Atlanta Business Chronicle
    See, this has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Not me and you. But I have kept my plan and doctor. No changes.

    UPS is just a crappy company. And, BTW, companies have been dropping insurance for a long time now. Long before Obama was even elected.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    UPS is just a crappy company.
    These guys don't seem to think so.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    These guys don't seem to think so.

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    You dump insurance, you're a crappy company. No way around it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You dump insurance, you're a crappy company. No way around it.
    Either dumping insurance or cutting hours, it looks like Obamacare is turning most companies into "crappy" companies.

    NBC: Yes, employers are cutting hours to avoid ObamaCare Hot Air

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    Aug 14, 2013 - Employers around the country, from fast-food franchises to colleges, have told NBC News that they will be cutting workers' hours below 30 a ...

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Either dumping insurance or cutting hours, it looks like Obamacare is turning most companies into "crappy" companies.

    NBC: Yes, employers are cutting hours to avoid ObamaCare Hot Air

    hotair.com/.../nbc-yes-employers-are-cutting-hours-to-avoid-obamacare/‎
    Aug 14, 2013 - Employers around the country, from fast-food franchises to colleges, have told NBC News that they will be cutting workers' hours below 30 a ...
    If this wasn't happening, and then started out of the blue, you might have a point. But you can go back a long ways and see it happening long be before Obama was even elected. Until healthcare is not linked to employment, you will see it no matter what Obama does.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If this wasn't happening, and then started out of the blue, you might have a point. But you can go back a long ways and see it happening long be before Obama was even elected. Until healthcare is not linked to employment, you will see it no matter what Obama does.
    Sorry, but no sale. This didn't happen on a significant scale until Obamacare.
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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Sorry, but no sale. This didn't happen on a significant scale until Obamacare.
    Sure it did. I've linked it before. This has been a long movement. Companies have been using more part time people and dumping insurance for a long time. Hell, we had discussions on it when Bush was president, and it wasn't new then.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If this wasn't happening, and then started out of the blue, you might have a point. But you can go back a long ways and see it happening long be before Obama was even elected. Until healthcare is not linked to employment, you will see it no matter what Obama does.
    Take it up with HuffPost and UC Berkeley.

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