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    Re: Fox News Poll: Phony scandals? Not to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Thanks, your table which I believe is accurate demonstrates a couple of things...

    1. Progressive organizations were selected for scrutiny (targeted) as well were conservatives
    2. Progressive organizations more honest than conservative when requesting non-profit status.
    7? you call that targeting that is more like a coincidence or a clerical error the apps got accidently put in a wrong stack

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Phony scandals? Not to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    7? you call that targeting that is more like a coincidence or a clerical error the apps got accidently put in a wrong stack
    Nope, not really. The BOLO caught the progressive organizations and there was far fewer of them than Tea Party.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Phony scandals? Not to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Thanks, your table which I believe is accurate demonstrates a couple of things...

    1. Progressive organizations were selected for scrutiny (targeted) as well were conservatives
    2. Progressive organizations more honest than conservative when requesting non-profit status.
    Yeah right, like progressives are honest??

    They're ****ing liars that operate in the same fashion as the Bolsheviks. YOUR main goal and the progressives main goal is to seek and destroy your opposition at any costs. Now that the fascist progressives are in positions of power they're doing just that.

    That's what the ****ing graph (if accurate, and I have no reason to doubt it is) tells us.

    It tells us that progressives are fascists...

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Phony scandals? Not to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Nope, not really. The BOLO caught the progressive organizations and there was far fewer of them than Tea Party.
    then you need to explain the astounding difference in the amount of questions and approval rate between the conservative groups and the progressive group as you try to falsely claim they was treated equally

    Look this agreement has been hashed out over and over on these forums, and time and time again you liberals get proven wrong.
    accept that fact and stop wasting every ones time trying the same old debunked argument.
    Pull the "blame Bush" card or the "Race" card, because the "Liberal group was targeted also" card has been debunked. it has been clearly shown so few was scrutinized, and received 10 times less scrutiny then any conservative group it isn't even relevant

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Phony scandals? Not to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    One of the questions was this: "For each of the following, please tell me whether you think itís a situation that should be taken seriously or if itís more of a phony scandal: The Obama administrationís handling of the terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya that resulted in the deaths of four Americans." Your only options are "It should be taken seriously" or "It's a phony scandel" or "I don't know."

    Talk about a loaded question, first off the question makes the claim that its Obama's administration's handling of the terrorist attack that resulted in four dead Americans, it doesn't place the blame on the hands of the attackers but rather the President. Secondly, what about people like me think that we should take things like Benghazi seriously but also that the "scandel" about it is just a bunch of hot air being blown around by Republicans looking to play politics and avoid work? How should I answer? Well given the two I'd probably pick it should be taken seriously.

    Now where this gets really stupid is where Fox News or someone like "Trjr" comes in and says "A-ha because only 17 percent of people said it was a phony scandel, that means 83 percent of people think its a real scandel" when in fact that may not be the case at all but because of the way the poll constrains the possible responses. And what is a scandel exactly anyway? If I said that Benghazi is a scandel that may mean I think the President is wrong in his handling of the situation OR it may mean that I think that a scandel exists in that I acknowledge that many people find what happened scandelous but I personally don't.

    You can't place people into just one of two positions, the world isn't as simple as black and white. Sorry but this poll is completely meaningless.
    We do exactly that all the time. Don't you remember Valerie Jarrett's statement that you're either with us or agin us? C'mon. You know it's true. Unless you're advocating for a third party, you're inevitably placing people with a choice between two, and not three or more. At the end of the day, either you believe there's something more than has been shown, or you don't. The Obama administration is telling people that there's nothing more to be seen, and is daily making certain that's true. It's all a little too obvious to even the low information voter. I'd hate to be among those in the administration charged with keeping all the parts of these things inside a box.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Phony scandals? Not to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Fox news President Poll was just as close as anyone else. Fox poll did not project Romney as the winner as you might wanted to believe they had him trailing by 3 points so they was off a couple of points but so was most
    Yeah, how soon they forget how surprised they were when obama won, and how wrong they were that Romney was even in contention for it. let us say you are right for just a moment. I know it is a stretch, but let us pretend we are in republicanland. Where is your victory? Obama is still there, there have been no charges brought on people, and life is going on. You cannot even stop him from winning another election, though I am sure the reps will find some way to claim they did. It is all a bunch of whining even if you are correct. Unless it turns into some sort of action you can all scream and whine as loud as you want, it means nothing. I can see why you cheer, it is the best you can do to make up numbers and pretend you won something, but you did not do anything but see the results of a known piss poor polling org and a station that loves to delude itself and pretend.

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Phony scandals? Not to voters

    Breaking News!!!

    Fox pays for poll that concludes that Fox is right!
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    Re: Fox News Poll: Phony scandals? Not to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Yeah, how soon they forget how surprised they were when obama won, and how wrong they were that Romney was even in contention for it. let us say you are right for just a moment. I know it is a stretch, but let us pretend we are in republicanland. Where is your victory? Obama is still there, there have been no charges brought on people, and life is going on. You cannot even stop him from winning another election, though I am sure the reps will find some way to claim they did. It is all a bunch of whining even if you are correct. Unless it turns into some sort of action you can all scream and whine as loud as you want, it means nothing. I can see why you cheer, it is the best you can do to make up numbers and pretend you won something, but you did not do anything but see the results of a known piss poor polling org and a station that loves to delude itself and pretend.
    It was only 1 Fox news contributor not Fox news

    i want to point out it was a year after the water gate investigation started before Nixon was forced out of office so go ahead and bury you head in the sand and keep making lame unfounded excuses. It will be a sad day in history when our first president of color will leave office in disgrace and set back the minority community when it happens

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Phony scandals? Not to voters

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Breaking News!!!

    Fox pays for poll that concludes that Fox is right!
    show me a poll that says different?
    Everyday you post on the forums saying how wrong everyone on the right is and not once do you show any evidence. it is like we should just take your word for it or something

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    Re: Fox News Poll: Phony scandals? Not to voters

    Approval rating means nothing at this point. No matter what we are going to elect a scumbag Republican or Democrat back into office in in 2016 anyways. You people complain about things but then don't do anything to make a real change. A real change isn't electing one of the two from the incompetent parties back into office after they administration after administration prove not worthy.
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