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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

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    How do you feel about not being able to refuse having your house searched randomly? Not because there's any reason to think that searching your house would yield something of law enforcement value, just because your house was where the dart landed.

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    How do you feel about not being able to refuse having your house searched randomly? Not because there's any reason to think that searching your house would yield something of law enforcement value, just because your house was where the dart landed.
    But I can refuse. When people should be yelling, screaming and gnashing their teeth is when you can't refuse. And that's not going to happen until we shred the Constitution. I've been on this earth a while now. Never had a problem with a cop. Same with Tom. Same with most of my friends and family. I'm not paranoid about the government like some on this forum are. I don't have issues with authoritarian figures hired to enforce our laws. I respect them. And if I can make their job easier? That's what I'll be doing.

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then it really must irk you that your view politically is on the fringe.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you're not doing anything wrong, why do you care about something that has the potential to save your life? I've never understood the mindset, frankly. If they'd have been in the right place at the right time, the Boston bombing could have been prevented. We live in a complicated world. Strangers are trying to annihilate us. I wish they'd walk around with portable metal detectors. Might get some illegal guns off the streets.
    I never understood the mindset of "if you're not doing anything wrong then....". That excuse has led to many infringements on peoples rights. From licensing guns which doesn't do squat to keep guns out of criminals hands to random strip searches in our airports to the NSA doing massive data dumps of information of private citizens private communications.

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Now wait a minute. The right was complaining about Benghazi in saying that we "ignored" the warnings, so now that the U.S. hasn't ignored the warnings you think the terrorists have won?

    What would happen if Obama let the embacies stay open and there was another attack that Americans die from? The right would have a field day. We can't beef up EVERY SINGLE one of them, so yes I think closing them was an acceptable solution. Would you rather Americans died?
    We have thousands of soldiers out in the field fighting multiple wars which we shouldn't even be in and we can't beef up the embassies that are prime targets? You're joking right?
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    We have thousands of soldiers out in the field fighting multiple wars which we shouldn't even be in and we can't beef up the embassies that are prime targets? You're joking right?
    How many embacies do we have? How many can Al-Q hit? Yeah, do the math please.

    You on the right are complaining about spending so much, this is what you get. Plain and simple we should be closing any embacy in an area that is hostile to the U.S.

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If there were a child missing in the neighborhood, you would demand officers have a search warrant to search your home? See, I find that sickening. If you have drug paraphernalia sitting around, I can understand your reasoning. If you have illegal guns in your home or are running a meth lab, I can understand your reasoning. But to impede an investigation just to protect your rights? That I don't get.
    There is a big difference between allowing cops to seach your home for a possible child kidnapper and searching random people in the "hopes" of "maybe" catching someone doing something illegal.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    How many embacies do we have? How many can Al-Q hit? Yeah, do the math please.

    You on the right are complaining about spending so much, this is what you get. Plain and simple we should be closing any embacy in an area that is hostile to the U.S.
    Embassies are there to try and negotiate peace. Are you saying that we should stop trying to do that? Just keep a perpetual war going? I'd rather we keep them open and beef them up than close them and keep war going.

    As for the math...not that hard. We have at least 1 embassy in any given country. Thats 193 embassies. Beef em up by 100 and that is only 19,300 troops. The US has over 1 million troops. We have plenty of people to beef up our embassies plus plenty more to wage those wars Obama has going.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Embassies are there to try and negotiate peace. Are you saying that we should stop trying to do that? Just keep a perpetual war going? I'd rather we keep them open and beef them up than close them and keep war going.
    Do you really think the embacy in Libya or Egypt is doing a damn think to negotiate peace? Sorry, but that is a bill of sale I'm not buying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post

    As for the math...not that hard. We have at least 1 embassy in any given country. Thats 193 embassies. Beef em up by 100 and that is only 19,300 troops. The US has over 1 million troops. We have plenty of people to beef up our embassies plus plenty more to wage those wars Obama has going.
    Like Is aid, your answer is just "spend more". You're no different than liberals wanting the government to pay for continued stupidity.

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    But I can refuse.
    I know. That's part of the point as to why comparing the random searches in commuter stations to focused searches of your house isn't that helpful.
    If the search of your house was random and you couldn't refuse w/o forgoing the service (your house or rail service), then the comparison would be more helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Never had a problem with a cop. Same with Tom. Same with most of my friends and family.
    That's awesome. I hope it continues that way for you. That's not the experience of everyone though.
    Your lack of problems with cops doesn't do much to assure me that there are not corrupt officials.
    I may be wrong.

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