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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    It never ceases to amaze me how some people don't grasp that fiddling around with who gets to run a different country never makes that population happy with you.
    Similarly, when you drop bombs in another country, the people living there don't care why you are doing it and will hate you forever because of it.

    Consider this: Nobody flies planes into buildings in Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I'd rather have them adequately armed or closed down.
    Well that's why they are now closed. Again, this is a case of no matter what Obama does, the right is going to complain. I would rather them err on the side of caution and close them than keep them there without proper security. We don't need to be anywhere we aren't welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Our country has never done what it should have done to combat terrorism. Trading tit for tat doesn't work. We have to be willing to inflict such devastation on these people to the extent that they will not have the heart to continue their attacks. Anything else is spitting in the wind.
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    Yeah, it's totally worth annihilating other countries over low probability events.
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    That's not what I said. You are reading too much between the lines.
    Okay so if Ikari (and myself included since that is the way I took your comment) are incorrect on what we "read" into, please explain your "grand" plan for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We've had almost 70 years of uninterrupted interventionism in the area, we never tried it my way. And I think it is more foolish to spend us till we're broke while killing thousands more Americans is well more foolish than the lot of us taking on some small probability.

    I just don't see dead Americans and a bankrupt government with no hope of change or resolution being anything close to an intelligent choice.

    Then it really must irk you that your view politically is on the fringe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then it really must irk you that your view politically is on the fringe.

    I'm not sure that opinion is on the fringe. There are a large amount of people that don't like what the US foreign policy is. But that doesn't matter, the politicians will do what they want. When they say "US interests abroad" they really mean, their interest, not the peoples interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gendolookin View Post
    I'm not sure that opinion is on the fringe. There are a large amount of people that don't like what the US foreign policy is. But that doesn't matter, the politicians will do what they want. When they say "US interests abroad" they really mean, their interest, not the peoples interest.
    Well, the "people" keep voting them into office don't they?
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you're not doing anything wrong, why do you care about something that has the potential to save your life?
    Stopping me and searching me does not have the potential to save my life.

    How many millions of people move through transit systems each day? Out of those, what number (number because it's obviously an incredibly small fraction of a percent) are about to commit some heinous crime of violence?

    Are we to give up our rights to go about our daily business unmolested for the chance that is even smaller than the chances of winning the lottery? Sounds like a poor trade, imho.

    Next, there's the issue of whether or not giving up these rights would actually have any impact toward making us "safer." Apparently, that question is largely unanswered.

    Any power given to the govt actually resides in the hands of a human being. Maybe it's because I have lived certain unfortunate small towns which lead me to be very wary of petty officials wielding authority. Sometimes people act out of their own interests rather than out of the interests of their official duties. Eroding the protections of the individual against the abuse of official power is not a good idea, imho.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Our rights are in place to protect us. If we don't need protection, we don't need to exercise them.
    The rights aren't there to protect us from officials who're behaving themselves. They're there to protect us from officials abusing their power. Believe it or not, but sometimes officials can be corrupt. When that happens it is very hard for an individual to fight against the powers that be. The harder we make it for individuals to protect themselves from the abuses of power, the worse off we will be.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you're not doing anything wrong, why do you care about something that has the potential to save your life? I've never understood the mindset, frankly. If they'd have been in the right place at the right time, the Boston bombing could have been prevented. We live in a complicated world. Strangers are trying to annihilate us. I wish they'd walk around with portable metal detectors. Might get some illegal guns off the streets.
    If one is to live in constant fear, then the terrorists have already won without doing a thing.

    Maggie, with all due respect, by seeing this as a good thing it opens the gateway for many more infringements on the Bill of Rights and the Constitution all in the name of 'safety'. Letting a group of bureaucrats make your safety decisions for you is not for your individual protection.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

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    RON NIXON NYT] [/COLOR]The squad was not with the Washington police department or Amtrak’s police force, but was one of the Transportation Security Administration’s Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response squads — VIPR teams for short — assigned to perform random security sweeps to prevent terrorist attacks at transportation hubs across the United States.
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    If there were a child missing in the neighborhood, you would demand officers have a search warrant to search your home?
    How do you feel about not being able to refuse having your house searched randomly? Not because there's any reason to think that searching your house would yield something of law enforcement value, just because your house was where the dart landed.
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