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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Fine I'm all for that, but that isn't how it's going to happen regardless of who is president. So given the fact we KNOW they won't be shut down permanently would you rather err on the side of caution and have them closed, or keep them open and risk an attack on one of them where Americans die?
    I'd rather have them adequately armed or closed down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So continue doing all the things which encourage terrorism to beat terrorism? Sounds reasonable.
    Our country has never done what it should have done to combat terrorism. Trading tit for tat doesn't work. We have to be willing to inflict such devastation on these people to the extent that they will not have the heart to continue their attacks. Anything else is spitting in the wind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Does the US have the means to do this for everyone? I don't think we do, so the consequence to this tact is that you pay off enemies to stop harassing you, while creating new ones that don't receive your help, while teaching them that in order to get the pay out is to start harassing you....Our current enemies have a term for that, it is called paying a dhimmi tax.
    Do we have the means to keep bombing everybody and funding rebellion in other countries? No, doesn't stop us though. So if we're going to be spending the money, I'd rather spend it on a feasible long term solution rather than bombing anyone who looks at us cross-eyed and then being forced to have TSA, HLS, aggressive NSA policies, etc. at home.

    The war isn't a solution, so it's either spin our wheels and go broke while killing off Americans in foreign lands for battles that are not for our rights and liberties, or address the broken issues and either pull out or switch tactics to something that doesn't consume life and that may met out a stable, long term solution.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Our country has never done what it should have done to combat terrorism. Trading tit for tat doesn't work. We have to be willing to inflict such devastation on these people to the extent that they will not have the heart to continue their attacks. Anything else is spitting in the wind.
    Yeah, it's totally worth annihilating other countries over low probability events.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, it's totally worth annihilating other countries over low probability events.
    That's not what I said. You are reading too much between the lines.

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Do we have the means to keep bombing everybody and funding rebellion in other countries? No, doesn't stop us though. So if we're going to be spending the money, I'd rather spend it on a feasible long term solution rather than bombing anyone who looks at us cross-eyed and then being forced to have TSA, HLS, aggressive NSA policies, etc. at home.

    The war isn't a solution, so it's either spin our wheels and go broke while killing off Americans in foreign lands for battles that are not for our rights and liberties, or address the broken issues and either pull out or switch tactics to something that doesn't consume life and that may met out a stable, long term solution.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I didn't give the bullies my lunch money in grade school, and I prefer not to do it now either.
    Except that it's promoting and encouraging bullies to take our lunch money, so it's rather nonsensical. You haven't stopped anything in this decade of war....decade of war. So you get thousands of dead Americans and less lunch money. Not only because the government now takes our lunch money itself, but also because you haven't addressed any of the problems.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Except that it's promoting and encouraging bullies to take our lunch money, so it's rather nonsensical. You haven't stopped anything in this decade of war....decade of war. So you get thousands of dead Americans and less lunch money. Not only because the government now takes our lunch money itself, but also because you haven't addressed any of the problems.
    I think it is a pendulum that swings back and forth...During Clinton we tried it your way, and Clinton did a soft footprint, treating terror like a crime instead of an act of war, then Bush treated it with a heavy hand and troops on the ground, but never fully, now we have Obama that can't even utter the words 'radical terrorist' and apologizes for America at every turn, and nothing has changed, we are still #1 target of radical Islamist terrorists...So, your approach is IMHO, a fools errand.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think it is a pendulum that swings back and forth...During Clinton we tried it your way, and Clinton did a soft footprint, treating terror like a crime instead of an act of war, then Bush treated it with a heavy hand and troops on the ground, but never fully, now we have Obama that can't even utter the words 'radical terrorist' and apologizes for America at every turn, and nothing has changed, we are still #1 target of radical Islamist terrorists...So, your approach is IMHO, a fools errand.
    We've had almost 70 years of uninterrupted interventionism in the area, we never tried it my way. And I think it is more foolish to spend us till we're broke while killing thousands more Americans is well more foolish than the lot of us taking on some small probability.

    I just don't see dead Americans and a bankrupt government with no hope of change or resolution being anything close to an intelligent choice.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    That's not what I said. You are reading too much between the lines.
    But that's what would be necessary. You talk about "these people" as if they're some sort of readily identifiable, separated group you can eliminate without mass-murdering innocent people.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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