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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    When we are forced to live in a police state the terrorist have won, much like shutting down all our mid east embassies with a little internet chatter.

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    There was a thread recently over in the *BN* Forums that detailed incidents of known terrorists being given new identities and their past eradicated as part of the WPP. The Justice Department do not share the new identity names of these known terrorists with the agencies who make up the terrorist watchlists. Madness.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...n-program.html

    Meanwhile, ordinary law abiding American citizens continue to be harrassed without probable cause.

    There's something very wrong with that don't you think?

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    When we are forced to live in a police state the terrorist have won, much like shutting down all our mid east embassies with a little internet chatter.
    Hell, I remember flying into Miami 25 years ago and thinking I lived in a police state. They had armed 'soldiers' with AK-something's slung on their shoulders. They barely spoke English. It was the same thing we saw when we traveled to Mexico -- except there we saw them in the streets.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you're not doing anything wrong, why do you care about something that has the potential to save your life? I've never understood the mindset, frankly. If they'd have been in the right place at the right time, the Boston bombing could have been prevented. We live in a complicated world. Strangers are trying to annihilate us. I wish they'd walk around with portable metal detectors. Might get some illegal guns off the streets.
    If I am not doing anything wrong, then why is the government f'ing with me? Why are they doing these (allgedly) random searches to stop terrorism when most of the time it is the government itself behind the terrorist attacks?

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I believe I already answered that.
    Yes, you answered that you wouldn't mind. However, what if it was being used for political purposes under the guise of "safety"? I mean if they listened into your calls or checked you house because they said it was for your "safety" and then later used it against you or someone you were talking to for political purposes you wouldn't be able to undo what was done.

    Sorry, but I am not for the government taking away liberties or stepping on rights just because they say it will make us "safer". We have already seen the political abuses for things that the government has done, why wouldn't you care?

    Obama has proven to be just another politician and while I don't think he is a dictator, the more control we give to the government creates the enviornment that a dictator can eventually come about.

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    There was a thread recently over in the *BN* Forums that detailed incidents of known terrorists being given new identities and their past eradicated as part of the WPP. The Justice Department do not share the new identity names of these known terrorists with the agencies who make up the terrorist watchlists. Madness.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...n-program.html

    Meanwhile, ordinary law abiding American citizens continue to be harrassed without probable cause.

    There's something very wrong with that don't you think?
    I chalk it up to the world we live in today. And the world we live in today isn't a kind and gentle one. We won't let our security agencies profile by race or country of origin; so this is what that buys. If I were taking my little niece and nephew to a football game, I'd be glad to see security checking backpacks. Happy to go through metal detectors. Our world is NUTZ.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    I can see how looking at events like this would draw the ire of the civil libertarians, and those who see a fascist police state at every turn, however, what we are really seeing is the secretive nature of this "most transparent government in history" as coined by the current administration, to the laughter of those who know better.
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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    When we are forced to live in a police state the terrorist have won, much like shutting down all our mid east embassies with a little internet chatter.
    Now wait a minute. The right was complaining about Benghazi in saying that we "ignored" the warnings, so now that the U.S. hasn't ignored the warnings you think the terrorists have won?

    What would happen if Obama let the embacies stay open and there was another attack that Americans die from? The right would have a field day. We can't beef up EVERY SINGLE one of them, so yes I think closing them was an acceptable solution. Would you rather Americans died?

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I can see how looking at events like this would draw the ire of the civil libertarians, and those who see a fascist police state at every turn, however, what we are really seeing is the secretive nature of this "most transparent government in history" as coined by the current administration, to the laughter of those who know better.
    I don't agree with what the TSA is doing, but I hardly think it is "secrative" if they are walking around in uniforms with bulletproof vests on.

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    Re: T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I don't agree with what the TSA is doing, but I hardly think it is "secrative" if they are walking around in uniforms with bulletproof vests on.
    You misunderstand....intentionally or not is the question.
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