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    Re: Laugh it up: Study finds late-night comics using Democrats as punchlines

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well-known by Limbaugh et al or actually well-known?
    The article I posted was from HuffPo...Darn conservative outlets!
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    Re: Laugh it up: Study finds late-night comics using Democrats as punchlines

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Well known? someone hasn't watched the whitehouse press corp dinners.
    Yeah, I saw them...Obama is a great actor in front of an audience....But even his own advisors worry about his ability to not read into his own press.
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    Re: Laugh it up: Study finds late-night comics using Democrats as punchlines

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The article I posted was from HuffPo...Darn conservative outlets!
    It was an opinion piece that presented little to no actual evidence that this is the case. Written by a conservative editorialist who used to work for Reagan and both presidents Bush. A HuffPo logo at the top of the page does not make this a liberal piece of writing.

    One guy said Obama was thin-skinned, and you went and declared this was "well-known." You know why?

    You hate the president. Literally everything he does, you perceive in a negative way as a result. Which further reinforces your negative opinion of the president. When it comes to the behavior and motivation of liberals, you are not an objective source of information. Your own brain poisons you against being objective. It's not your fault, really. We're all wired this way. It's just that some of us are aware of this limitation and realize that we shouldn't decide what other peoples' opinions are.
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    Laugh it up: Study finds late-night comics using Democrats as punchlines

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    I would say more of giving the people who hate others a banner to rally around. It is great for drumming up support of minions, but terrible for avoiding making idiotic statements and becoming a stereotype open to ridicule. The dems do put more effort into an image of being reasonable and open. Because of that effort they probably have learned to keep silent on radical ideas and avoid saying outlandish things. Not that there are not loud mouthed dems, but that as a group they tend to not make the same amount of crazy as the reps who try to motivate a very hateful core. Hate is a great motivator, but it tends to make one stupid and closed minded.
    Sometimes, yes, you'll find conservatives saying or doing dumb things more often than liberals on some given weeks. However, the fact remains that the worldview of the comedians dramatically shapes what they find to be the absurd or dumb. There are plenty of things liberals, libertarians, and left-wingers do that are ridiculously stupid. You are less likely to find them joking about it, because somehow the message, the goal, whatever, is right and just to the comedian in question. These are social critics and have very little obligation or drive to be "equal opportunity haters." Even if they claim to be equal opportunity haters, their world view shapes what they see as "equal opportunity." The comedian's act is most often a reflection of their own views, and as such, it is really disingenuous to suggest that the comedians targets are mostly or always in the wrong.
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    Re: Laugh it up: Study finds late-night comics using Democrats as punchlines

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Sometimes, yes, you'll find conservatives saying or doing dumb things more often than liberals on some given weeks. However, the fact remains that the worldview of the comedians dramatically shapes what they find to be the absurd or dumb. There are plenty of things liberals, libertarians, and left-wingers do that are ridiculously stupid. You are less likely to find them joking about it, because somehow the message, the goal, whatever, is right and just to the comedian in question. These are social critics and have very little obligation or drive to be "equal opportunity haters." Even if they claim to be equal opportunity haters, their world view shapes what they see as "equal opportunity." The comedian's act is most often a reflection of their own views, and as such, it is really disingenuous to suggest that the comedians targets are mostly or always in the wrong.
    I quite agree. I also agreed they don't have to be equal opportunity haters, as you said. But they do have to be funny, or they won't last.

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    Re: Laugh it up: Study finds late-night comics using Democrats as punchlines

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Sometimes, yes, you'll find conservatives saying or doing dumb things more often than liberals on some given weeks. However, the fact remains that the worldview of the comedians dramatically shapes what they find to be the absurd or dumb. There are plenty of things liberals, libertarians, and left-wingers do that are ridiculously stupid. You are less likely to find them joking about it, because somehow the message, the goal, whatever, is right and just to the comedian in question. These are social critics and have very little obligation or drive to be "equal opportunity haters." Even if they claim to be equal opportunity haters, their world view shapes what they see as "equal opportunity." The comedian's act is most often a reflection of their own views, and as such, it is really disingenuous to suggest that the comedians targets are mostly or always in the wrong.
    Worldview has some of it, but audience is probably a bit more important. There are different comedian types. lots of standups avoid political humor. Certain ones fill the niche because there is a call for it. You have your Bill Mahers and your lewis blacks. But lots of them stay away from charged humor which would be an easy bomb in certain areas, and alter their routines depending on audience. A late night host is expected to make commentary on recent news events, and political humor is going to get in there. I would say a talk show host is probably most defined by what makes it into the main stream news.

    As for saying stupider things, there is a difference between disagreeing with a worldview and doing things like completely botching known biological fact like how a vagina works, embracing creationism and religious accounts as facts, making up new words so often it becomes a bushism, and doing things like insulting 47 percent of americans at your rich white guy fund raiser during a presidential election. There is a difference between denyong facts, and just making a statement that is a different point of view. For example abortion. If a person wants to argue a fetus is a life because it has possibilities or it's heart beats that is not a joke and becomes a debate. If a person wants to say a woman who is raped stops her uterus from working because she doesn't consent, that is comical and a joke. Also, if a person is over the age of 5 and believes the flintstones is a documentary because of another radically fictional book that is another joke, where a person who simply believes in god and regards the bible as parable or allegory is just being philisophical.

    Really, audience is the big thing.

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    Re: Laugh it up: Study finds late-night comics using Democrats as punchlines

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    While I appreciate all of my liberal friends taking the time to respond with the usual Alinsky style, and predictable responses in some cases, the tone, and vitriolic mockery shows me that in my short and tongue in cheek OP, I have struck a nerve...

    Obama has an amazingly, yet well known 'thin skin' when it comes to criticism. So much so that HuffPo even wrote about it....



    So yeah, when certain liberal Obama supporters in here try the failed tactic of making this about how conservatives have some persecution complex, or play victim cards, is really only cover for what they know is their own short coming.

    In fact, as personal, and anecdotal experience I can tell you of the liberals I know in real life, it is usually best to steer clear of talking politics at parties and such, not because they don't articulate their opinions, but rather because they usually get too upset to have a civil discussion in real life....

    So, my conclusion thus far is that the liberal progressives in here displaying snark, and backhanded insult, are only projecting, and thus really don't want to discuss anything, but rather just call names, and stomp off like children...I for one hope that they realize this, and get with the program a little.
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    Re: Laugh it up: Study finds late-night comics using Democrats as punchlines

    Quote Originally Posted by Sykes View Post
    When I read the article, and don't even recognize the man they describe, there's something wrong with this picture.
    I see your problem. You need to wear your republican glasses. When you wear them you will see things the way republicans do. Horns will appear on democrats heads and republicans are backlit by a soft divine light while their hal;os sparkle in their aura. If you have lost them it may take a few weeks to get a new pair, but fear not you can save yourself by creating your own homemade republican glasses. They are not quite as good as the real thing but all you need is some old people cataract glasses, and some black spray paint and you are well on your way to eliminating reality from your view.

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    Re: Laugh it up: Study finds late-night comics using Democrats as punchlines

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It was an opinion piece that presented little to no actual evidence that this is the case. Written by a conservative editorialist who used to work for Reagan and both presidents Bush. A HuffPo logo at the top of the page does not make this a liberal piece of writing.

    One guy said Obama was thin-skinned, and you went and declared this was "well-known." You know why?

    You hate the president. Literally everything he does, you perceive in a negative way as a result. Which further reinforces your negative opinion of the president. When it comes to the behavior and motivation of liberals, you are not an objective source of information. Your own brain poisons you against being objective. It's not your fault, really. We're all wired this way. It's just that some of us are aware of this limitation and realize that we shouldn't decide what other peoples' opinions are.

    Oh, there's that trait unable to look at the article and listen to someone with the credentials politically in this case to know about people in office, and take their opinion for discussion....Why? Because you know he's right. I mean come off it man, we've all seen it....From banning FNC reporters off the campaign jet with some stupid excuse because he didn't like the reporting, to instructing his staff not to appear on ANY FNC show during the early days. Obama is a bitter little bitch punk that can't take it when it comes to direct criticism....And the article had it right when it said this;

    "Obama is among the most thin-skinned presidents we have had, and we see evidence of it in every possible venue imaginable, from one-on-one interviews to press conferences, from extemporaneous remarks to set speeches.
    The president is constantly complaining about what others are saying about him. He is upset at Fox News, and conservative talk radio, and Republicans, and people carrying unflattering posters of him. He gets upset when his avalanche of faulty facts are challenged, like on health care. He gets upset when he is called on his hypocrisy, on everything from breaking his promise not to hire lobbyists in the White House to broadcasting health care meetings on C-SPAN to not curtailing earmarks to failing in his promises of transparency and bipartisanship.
    In Obama's eyes, he is always the aggrieved, always the violated, always the victim of some injustice. He is America's virtuous and valorous hero, a man of unusually pure motives and uncommon wisdom, under assault by the forces of darkness.
    It is all so darn unfair."

    Awwww....poor wittle baby....da mean ol Fox reporters won't give Obama a break....Awwwww....

    Give me a break....What a pathetic loser. And we all are the losers because we as a country keep voting for dumb ****s like this.
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    Re: Laugh it up: Study finds late-night comics using Democrats as punchlines

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, there's that trait unable to look at the article and listen to someone with the credentials politically in this case to know about people in office, and take their opinion for discussion....Why? Because you know he's right. I mean come off it man, we've all seen it....From banning FNC reporters off the campaign jet with some stupid excuse because he didn't like the reporting, to instructing his staff not to appear on ANY FNC show during the early days. Obama is a bitter little bitch punk that can't take it when it comes to direct criticism....And the article had it right when it said this;

    "Obama is among the most thin-skinned presidents we have had, and we see evidence of it in every possible venue imaginable, from one-on-one interviews to press conferences, from extemporaneous remarks to set speeches.
    The president is constantly complaining about what others are saying about him. He is upset at Fox News, and conservative talk radio, and Republicans, and people carrying unflattering posters of him. He gets upset when his avalanche of faulty facts are challenged, like on health care. He gets upset when he is called on his hypocrisy, on everything from breaking his promise not to hire lobbyists in the White House to broadcasting health care meetings on C-SPAN to not curtailing earmarks to failing in his promises of transparency and bipartisanship.
    In Obama's eyes, he is always the aggrieved, always the violated, always the victim of some injustice. He is America's virtuous and valorous hero, a man of unusually pure motives and uncommon wisdom, under assault by the forces of darkness.
    It is all so darn unfair."

    Awwww....poor wittle baby....da mean ol Fox reporters won't give Obama a break....Awwwww....

    Give me a break....What a pathetic loser. And we all are the losers because we as a country keep voting for dumb ****s like this.

    this was actually where Obama finally started showing signs of wisdom
    why facilitate the propaganda machine that is doing everything it could to derail his administration
    saying **** you to faux news was the smart thing to do
    and now we see the crying from the reich wing, only because Obama was unwilling to invite faux into the hen house

    laugh it up, indeed
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