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    Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans

    (Reuters) - A secretive U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration unit is funneling information from intelligence intercepts, wiretaps, informants and a massive database of telephone records to authorities across the nation to help them launch criminal investigations of Americans
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    Federal Agents, Under Eric Holder, Caught Using NSA Wiretaps To Prosecute Americans… And Hiding Where Info Came From!

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    Re: Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans

    Color me not surprised.
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    Re: Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans

    Before there was the War On Terror, there was the War On Drugs. Both are utterly corrupt, and undermine the US Constitution.

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    Re: Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans

    I continue to believe that the role of the domestic surveillance deserves a thorough independent investigation with the findings (not sources and methods) made public and necessary corrections to the program made. Unfortunately, Congress does not appear capable or willing to examine a matter that has potential constitutional implications.

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    Re: Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans

    i'm very not-alarmed by this. Its only mildly related to the recent NSA leaks and doesn't seem to have anything to do with the "Meta Data" database. Most of these tips come from legal wiretaps that revealed information on someone who wasn't the target of the initial investigation. I.E. court order to tap drug dealers phone results in info about incoming shipments in another state, tip is given to appropriate state police, shipment intercepted. The "Parallel Construction" concept isn't inherently wrong imo, but the legal problems and unfairness it can cause at trial are enough to condemn that particular aspect of this.
    Could It Be Semantics Generating This Mess We're In?

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    Re: Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
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    Federal Agents, Under Eric Holder, Caught Using NSA Wiretaps To Prosecute Americans… And Hiding Where Info Came From!

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    That does sound quite troubling. Whereas I would tend to find the NSA data mining all right, as it seems to be well under control and supervised, this sounds out of control and malicious. It certainly needs looking into.

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    Re: Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I continue to believe that the role of the domestic surveillance deserves a thorough independent investigation with the findings (not sources and methods) made public and necessary corrections to the program made. Unfortunately, Congress does not appear capable or willing to examine a matter that has potential constitutional implications.
    That is a proposal, I think I like. Who should make up the independent investigation group?

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    Re: Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
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    Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans | Reuters


    Federal Agents, Under Eric Holder, Caught Using NSA Wiretaps To Prosecute Americans… And Hiding Where Info Came From!

    1984 anyone
    AS much as I disagree with what the NSA is doing, I don't think this would be any different if Romney were President. Except that the Liberals would be outraged and the Conservatives would be falling all over themselves to defend it.


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    Re: Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans

    It's amazing how some on the right are up in arms over this survellience thing, when under Bush many of them said "If you aren't doing anything wrong you don't have anything to worry about" yet are up in arms over this. The same goes for the left in the fact many were outraged by the fact Bush was doing this, yet many are now supportive of Obama doing it.

    If Romney were president, the program would most likely still be in effect, yet I think we would see many on the right supportive of it while many on the left would be outraged.

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    Re: Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That is a proposal, I think I like. Who should make up the independent investigation group?
    There are several ways this could be done:

    1. Congress could direct the Office of the Special Counsel to review the matter.
    2. Congress could adopt legislation to create an independent committee with robust authority to look into the matter (this approach was used to create the 9/11 Commission).
    3. Congress could charge one of its existing committees or create a special select committee to look into the matter.

    The second option would probably be best, but it is least likely. The President could veto the legislation. It currently appears that a comprehensive examination of the domestic surveillance issue lacks sufficient Congressional support to override any veto.

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