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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Yeah. Isn't that from the Declaration of Independence rather than the Constitution?
    The majority Founding Fathers felt that the Natural rights of humans (Life, Liberty and Pursuit of happiness) as put forth in the Declaration of Independence was adequate and didn't need re-stating in the Constitution. Many felt the Constitution should solely be a frame work for operating a National Government. It was felt that including these specific rights would imply that rights not granted by the National Government would be largely ignored. Eventually James Madison and most of the Founding Fathers came to agree with the addition of the Bill of Rights, but they still referred to the Declaration of Independence as the founding philosophy for our rights, and stated the Bill of Rights was not meant to be a replacement. Our Natural rights stem from and are granted by our Creator and the People, not the Federal Government.


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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    wrong it is an Inherent Right granted by our Creator. the bill of Rights wasn't written to give us those rights it was written so those rights could not be taken away. This is one of the fundamental differences between the Right and the Left. The left believes our rights come from government granted to them by the Bill of Rights. The Right knows they are Inherent Rights granted by our Creator and the Bill of Rights was to keep government from taking them away

    the Constitution isn't an enabling document is was written as a limiting document
    That's a fine sentiment, but it isn't a legal convention.
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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    This forum has more confused "Libertarians" than any forum I have ever visited. Every time "free market" forces punch the wrong person in the nose many of the "Libertarians" around here go crazy whining about how its not fair.

    It boggles the mind.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    I believe in free speech as long as I agree with that speech
    Where was freedom of speech infringed?

    I believe in freedom of the press as long as they are not critical of me
    Where was freedom of the press infringed?

    I believe in the freedom to protest as long as you don't protest me
    Where was freedom of protest infringed?

    I believe in free expression as long as you express my views
    Where was freedom of expression infringed?

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Name one reporter who was ever fired for being critical of Bush?
    Dan Rather
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Oh, come on. Do you really think the
    White House contacted this newspaper? Please. You're a Conservative. Don't you believe in following the policies of your job??
    THIS White House ? Yes.

    And if he was fired because he exceeded policy, why is the News Paper now offering up excuses ?

    That their decision was influenced by pressure ?

    Sure I understand the need for inter company rules and regulations, but with this President and his administration chosing to not abide by the rules and regulations placed before every President prior, I'm learning to not be a stickler.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    wrong it is an Inherent Right granted by our Creator. the bill of Rights wasn't written to give us those rights it was written so those rights could not be taken away.
    It was written so the government could not take them away.

    See, when you're talking about rights "granted by our creator" in a general sense, then you're speaking about nature. And in nature, the notion that "your rights end where mine begin" is non-existant. You have the right to say what you want in nature...I have the right to punch you in the face and gag you in nature as well. Might makes right.

    It is only through coming together and forming a social contract that we agree that we will respect the rights of each other and that we will set down established guidelines (IE laws) as to how we deal with situations where our rights interfere with each other.

    When it comes to speech, the press, etc...the GOVERNMENT is limited by the Bill of Rights from infringing upon it. However, there is no such limitations on private individuals or businesses placed by the BOR.

    That's because you start getting into conflicting rights. The "government" doesn't have rights, but a business owner does.

    One persons "Right to free speech" doesn't trump another persons "Right to assembly" of his choosing. Specifically, if an individual no longer wishes to employ you it's his right to NOT employ you in a state like Tennessee.

    What you have here is a situation where BOTH individuals have "rights" that conflict...because YOU agree with the speech, because YOU are critical of what he is critical of, because YOU agree with his protest, because YOU agree with his views, you come down on the side of the rights of the editor while squashing the rights of his employer. You do the same thing you accuse others of doing.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Dan Rather
    he was fired for falsehoods in presenting a falsified document and lost creditability not because he was critical of Bush

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    he was fired for falsehoods in presenting a falsified document and lost creditability not because he was critical of Bush
    Wrong

    Again
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So does those on the Right that have a brain.
    I don't believe that our rights come from Government.

    So please Pbrauer...do I have a brain? Or are you going to retract your ignorant attempt to broadly insult?

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