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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    AND THE OWNER OF THE NEWSPAPER CAN'T DEPRIVE YOU OF YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Goddamn! Why is it so ****ing hard for you people?!?
    Not being able to put a headline you want into a paper YOU don't own isn't a case of you being deprived your right to free speech.

    You have no RIGHT to be able to post any headline you want in someone else's paper.

    I can't post a headline of my choice into the Washington Post....the Posts owner is not depriving me of any rights t free speech because of that. Neither is this guyguy

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, the only folks with 1st Amendment rights are people who OWN the media source???? Really?!?!?
    Are you seriously funking suggesting media is the only means of "speech" people can do? Not being able to make headlines in a single paper is NOT depriving anyone of their right to free speech. ESPECIALLY, when its not even the government stopping him

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Not being able to put a headline you want into a paper YOU don't own isn't a case of you being deprived your right to free speech.

    You have no RIGHT to be able to post any headline you want in someone else's paper.

    I can't post a headline of my choice into the Washington Post....the Posts owner is not depriving me of any rights t free speech because of that. Neither is this guyguy
    That depends on who's telling you that you can't publish it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    However, there's no way the government can control what you write in any newspaper. Yes?

    Have you ever actually READ the Constitution?
    The government didn't do anything on this situation. The entire conversation about freedom of speech started because a poster was first suggesting the boss deprived the editor of his free speech and then suggested citizens deprived him of free speech.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Are you seriously funking suggesting media is the only means of "speech" people can do? Not being able to make headlines in a single paper is NOT depriving anyone of their right to free speech. ESPECIALLY, when its not even the government stopping him
    Is that what I funking said? No, it's funking not. Is it? Funking pay attention. Stop being so funking argumentative.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    and that's what they want, and what for the most part they have. This then isn't the news, isn't journalism, isn't editorial -- it's propaganda.
    ???? You find that surprising? I've known that for a long time. The news has a poor history of professionalism. It was yellow journalism that got us into most of our wars prior to 1941. Even during that war it was used by the government as a propaganda tool to increase morale back home. It' didn't develop a veneer of professionalism until the advent of television and the prestige garnered from live televised reporting.

    I'd say from 1958 to 1985 or so, it attempted to maintain some higher level of professionalism. Then cable took off, and shortly thereafter the internet, and it became what it is today. Now they just blatantly tell us what they want us to think is important and keep it in our faces while they compete to sell commercial advertising.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The government didn't do anything on this situation. The entire conversation about freedom of speech started because a poster was first suggesting the boss deprived the editor of his free speech and then suggested citizens deprived him of free speech.
    That poster wasn't me. Was it? Go bitch at him and address what I said and not what I didn't say.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, the fundamental difference between the right and the left is this: the right believes in the fallacy of natural rights. The left KNOWS that rights are based on social constructs of society and of the time.

    You are welcome for the correction.
    Despite your own inflated opinion of yourself, you claiming your opinion as fact isn't any more worthwhile or accurate than trjfr doing it. Also, instead of ignorant broad statements about right and left like this perhaps you should actually take a moment to loom at reality...where in this very thread you have a person on the right acknowledging the existence of societal rights and someone on the left acknowledging natural rights.
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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That poster wasn't me. Was it? Go bitch at him and address what I said and not what I didn't say.
    ....can't make this **** up...
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Re-write that sentence so that we can understand it. Thanks!
    That's great advice, could you clarify your stance so we can understand you...

    Is the owner of the paper infringing upon the rights of the editor by firing him?

    Are people protesting the paper due to the headline infringing upon the rights if the editor?

    Has anyone, in this particular cases infringed the rights of the editor and if so, who?

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