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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    then you are the reason NPR is no longer on the airwav .... nevermind
    Must be a point in there somewhere, just can't find it.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Must be a point in there somewhere, just can't find it.
    that your point is actually pointless
    you made a big deal out of withholding financial support from NPR
    and we see how effective your (in)actions were
    NPR has not been impacted
    but thanks for the opportunity to highlight that the practice you advocated was ineffective in the example you provided
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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Is this what they are teaching in schools these days is this what the left believes? No wonder why this nation is in deep **** we as a nation are abandoning the very core principles this great nation was built upon

    Our rights are not granted by government they are not given by man they are unalienable Rights endowed by our Creator. it is one of the core principles that this nation was built upon. it is in the first official document of the United States the document that made The United States that thousands gave their lives to establish and protect. it is what you are calling a fallacy

    If you don't like the core principles that this nation was built upon, and you think it is a fallacy you are free to leave. it is one of your unalienable Rights
    No, what it does is demonstrates the ignorance of some rightwing principles, noting that these rightwingers don't understand basic tenets of sociology, psychology, the use of language and how rules and laws are formed in society. Pretty basic stuff that some rightwing principles either ignore or don't understand. THAT'S one reason why this nation has problems. Oh, and if you don't understand how things actually work, you can either educate yourself, or... if you don't like it, you can leave. You are free to.
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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post

    Our rights are not granted by government they are not given by man they are unalienable Rights endowed by our Creator.
    Is that why at the signing of the constitution that women had the right to vote and blacks had the same rights as whites? Oh wait they didn't. It wasn't until society changed their views on the subject that it changed and was applied. Had nothing to do with a creator.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, the fundamental difference between the right and the left is this: the right believes in the fallacy of natural rights.
    The left KNOWS that rights are based on social constructs of society and of the time.
    You are welcome for the correction.
    Say now ... there's an opportunity for big problems. But what the hell, we can call "society" anything we damn well please too so it's all good.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Well, yeah...freedom of expression always comes with consequences...sometimes good and sometimes bad.
    When it comes to a job the employer has a right to think of the business' public image which might undermine profits
    . Like I said before, no one has a right to a job...but when employer's act like dicks they can expect to get yes-men for employees.
    You think that's what was at play in this case?

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    You think that's what was at play in this case?
    Pretty much. That's always been the case when I investigated why an employer fired someone for a facebook post or a tweet or some other public comment. Perhaps they were worried about access to the President or his staff for future interviews, which might affect public sales. Perhaps their main customers are liberals, who knows?
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Pretty much. That's always been the case when I investigated why an employer fired someone for a facebook post or a tweet or some other public comment.
    Perhaps they were worried about access to the President or his staff for future interviews, which might affect public sales.
    Perhaps their main customers are liberals, who knows
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    Perhaps ... and perhaps again ... OR ... also perhaps it was more of a decision by the uber-Editor, not the employer, who was influenced by her personal opinion. After all, she felt the need to make up an excuse for the firing.
    We could get into the whole "why do people really choose to go into journalism (or teaching ... or politics ... or etc.)" thing but this is not the thread for that.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    As far as I can tell nobody's suggested that the government can do anything of the sort. They have said that a private newspaper could fire an employee for a controversial headline that could cost them money.
    Actually, Deuce claimed that writing for a privately owned newspaper isn't a constitutional right, which means that the government can regulate such activity.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Is that why at the signing of the constitution that women had the right to vote and blacks had the same rights as whites? Oh wait they didn't. It wasn't until society changed their views on the subject that it changed and was applied. Had nothing to do with a creator.
    Without the Constitution, women and blacks STILL wouldn't have any rights. See how awesome The Constitution is?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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