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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Ah, you do have a point there. It's not that anyone is trying to mislead, but that most people seem ignorant of what the data actually means.
    What does today's data mean in your view?
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    It's been essentially unchanged since the 1940's. Defintions were changed and clarified in 1967, and then big revision in the survey in 1994, but one minor change in definition (concetning people hired but had not started working yet).
    im guessing when the GOP are in the whitehouse the left down plays the figures and then when the dems are in the GOP down play the figures?
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Look at the state of The Black Family today because of The Democrat Party

    It's obvious

    Detroit was a Democrat dictatorship for decades. Have you seen the literacy rate in Detroit?

    Gee I wonder why

    i think you don't understand what the definition of a dictator is.



    dic·ta·tor
    noun \ˈdik-ˌtā-tər, dik-ˈ\
    Definition of DICTATOR
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    a : a person granted absolute emergency power; especially : one appointed by the senate of ancient Rome
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    unless the republican party in detroit was prevented from voting, participating in the legeslature or the process of governing, or banned as a political party, i don't understand how you can call democrats dictators because they did not have Absolute power.

    unless there is evidence you can provide that can show me otherwise.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Which has nothing to do with what we were
    talking about. I have no idea why you quoted me to post a non-sequitur.
    " Non-sequitur " only because there is a D next to our Presidents name.

    Those numbers, or our current job numbers under a Republican president would invoke cries of racism, incompetence and failed policies.

    All I ever read from you are justifications. A parsing of definitions.

    Personally I think that number is highly relevent.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    So why is BLS lying about that when they say: "The unemployment data derived from the household survey in no way depend upon the eligibility for or receipt of unemployment insurance benefits."???? Employment Situation Technical Note

    And your own link exposes your false statement: Are you seriously going to argue that job leavers, new entrants and reentrants are all recieving UI benefits?
    You're talking about a poll vs an official formula used by the government to determine the basis of unemployment...

    You don't know what you're talking about...

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You're talking about a poll vs an official formula used by the government to determine the basis of unemployment...
    It's a sample survey, not a poll, and it IS the basis of the official formula. You realize you've never been able to give one cite that says that the UE rate is based on those collecting benefits. You just assert it.
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i think you don't understand what the definition of a dictator is.





    Dictator - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    unless the republican party in detroit was prevented from voting, participating in the legeslature or the process of governing, or banned as a political party, i don't understand how you can call democrats dictators because they did not have Absolute power.

    unless there is evidence you can provide that can show me otherwise.
    The closest word to describe progressive strongholds such as Detroit, Chicago, LA etc - not to mention states - is dictatorship...

    When one party DICTATES OUTCOME for 70 years it is in essence a dictatorship - the simple fact these clowns were democratically elected means absolutely nothing.

    There is no word in the English language that I'm familiar with that defines "democratic dictation."

    The only difference between a dictator and progressive strongholds is democracy - other than that everything else is absolutely comparable.

    To put it into context - in some areas democrats/progressives as a political party are collectively dictators...

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The closest word to describe progressive strongholds such as Detroit, Chicago, LA etc - not to mention states - is dictatorship...

    When one party DICTATES OUTCOME for 70 years it is in essence a dictatorship - the simple fact these clowns were democratically elected means absolutely nothing.

    There is no word in the English language that I'm familiar with that defines "democratic dictation."

    The only difference between a dictator and progressive strongholds is democracy - other than that everything else is absolutely comparable.
    And just to be clear, long held GOP cities/counties.....are dictatorships too.
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yes that it is demographics. But the US working age population is growing faster than the number of US jobs to employ them, even as the number of those retired (and living longer) is also increasing.
    Per the 2010 Census, there are around 30,000 people aged 18-24. And nearly 50,000 people aged 62 and older.

    The 18-24 cohort grew by 13% between 2000 and 2010. The 62+ cohort grew by 21%.

    Unless I missed the "Baby Boom II" in the late 90s -- or, unless we have a major boost in younger employees due to immigration reform -- it's reasonable to expect the number of Americans in the workforce to continue declining.

    So, where is this jobs deficit coming from again...?

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    " Non-sequitur " only because there is a D next to our Presidents name.
    Since I'm not a Democrat, why would that make a difference to me? I never voted for Obama. It's a non-sequitur because Black Youth Unemployment has ****-all to do with a small number of discouraged workers. Seriously, what connection do you see?

    Those numbers, or our current job numbers under a Republican president would invoke cries of racism, incompetence and failed policies.
    True, but the Republicans wouldn't be complaining about them.

    [quote]All I ever read from you are justifications. A parsing of definitions.[/qiote] The correct definitions. I like accurate information, not people spreading falsehoods and spinning the data.

    Personally I think that number is highly relevent.
    When talking about discouraged workers? Oh, it could be, but in the discussion at the time, it came out of nowhere and had no direct connection.
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
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    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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