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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I'm curious to know exactly what business he runs that successfully "competes" with Wal-Mart, and if it is located in a rural or city site. There are a number of common franchises that co-exist with Wal-Mart because they are not really in competition.

    For example, 7-11 convenience stores. They cater to the convenience market, people who are seeking a minor purchase and don't feel the need to go to Wal-Mart. Then there are Dunkin Donuts, McDonalds, and other food chains who served prepared fast food meals. There are tech reapair stores and auto-body repair shops, and many others that either don't or only partially compete with Wal-Mart. Again most of these businesses are service oriented.

    Where are the common consumer item factories and local production retailers?

    To paraphrase what several business owner's stated in the film I provided; don't mention Wal-Mart and American business in the same sentence, it's an oxy-moron.
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Con is retired,(sucken from the system he
    rails about day and night) he lives in Houston Tx.I believe he was a cube monkey at a large international petro chem corp.but don't hold me to that.
    Not Houston, PASADENA. PASADENA, TEXAS is a small city just EAST of Houston Texas and yes, it's filled with massive petro-chemical facilities.

    BAYTOWN TEXAS, is ALSO EAST of Houston and is home to one of the LARGETS PETROCHEMICAL PLANTS IN THE US.

    Houston ? Its one of the FEW Cities in America that has actually added jobs under this incompetent President.

    Would it kill you to Google and not post arbitrary nonsense ?

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    BBC News - US employment up by 162,000 in July



    The US economy added 162,000 new jobs in July.

    This was below economists' expectations of more than 180,000 and the government also cut its previous estimates for hiring in May and June.

    Nonetheless, the new jobs helped the unemployment rate to fall to 7.4%.





    overall positive for the US economy hopefully this is a sign of recovery worldwide.



    Hm. I look around me and frankly I'm not buying it. I suspect manipulated figures.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    One thing about Houston, if there ever was a full on thermo-nuclear holocaust, those who live here would have to quickly accept that they would not be among the survivors.

    This City and it's surrounding petro-chemical plants is ground zero for at least 5 - 40 megaton ICBMs.

    But, I've learned to accept that unlikely actuallity, as this City has weathered through recession after and usually winds up taking in people from the plague Blue States and Cities.

    After the Governments in those Cities, "sucked off the system" to the point of collapse.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    <After analyzing data released by Wisconsin’s Medicaid program, the Democratic staff of the U.S. House Committee on Education and the Workforce estimates that a single 300- person Wal-Mart Supercenter store in Wisconsin likely costs taxpayers at least $904,542 per year and could cost taxpayers up to $1,744,590 per year – about $5,815 per employee.>

    WOW! Wisconsin taxpayer’s are ponying up $904,542 per year for one Wal-Mart store. Kinda makes you wonder how much the tax payer is coughing up across the country eh con?


    http://democrats.edworkforce.house.g...rt-May2013.pdf
    Love liberal reports, the average Walmart average pay for a full time hourly employee is 12.40 per hour plus benefits. Want to tell me what a cashier job at Walmart is worth. Any idea how many make a lot more that that? tell me what is it about liberals like you who want to tell a private company what it should pay its workers.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Love liberal reports, the average Walmart average pay for a full time hourly employee is 12.40 per hour plus benefits. Want to tell me what a cashier job at Walmart is worth. Any idea how many make a lot more that that? tell me what is it about liberals like you who want to tell a private company what it should pay its workers.
    No I don't have any idea how many more make more than that. So why don't you tell us?
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I know conservative communists exist in the membership in the Communist Party, but I didn't realize you were a member. Else why use the term Comrade when addressing anyone? Unfortunately I am neither a communist nor a Marxist so I cannot return the favor.

    Strangely though, as you are probably well-aware, the Federal government does not track welfare beyond the basic statistics indicating there are 47 million Americans on Food Stamps and 4.3 million on full or partial Welfare. Thankfully a number of state do, and here are some facts in support you asked for or can find for yourself:

    Ohio information: January 2012 shows Wal-Mart employees top the chart in Food Stamp recipients 14,799, employed Welfare recipients 803, and Medicaid 16,908. https://docs.google.com/file/d/1nisc...rive_web&pli=1

    In a 24 State survey of Medicaid enrollment Wal-Mart led the pack of businesses whose employees used that system in all of them except Vermont. Hidden Taxpayer Costs | Good Jobs First

    More facts can be found here (at least as of November 2012) if you are willing to follow the sources cited. Please IGNORE quotes in the article made by Mr. Alan Grayson. My point is not to support his political position. PolitiFact | Alan Grayson says more Walmart employees on Medicaid, food stamps than other companies

    BTW, in case you think only “liberals and commies” think this way (and I am neither), here is an article from one of your ultra-conservative bloggers:

    The Walmart Welfare Queen - AND Magazine The Case for Conservatives Against WalMart



    No I do not believe taxpayers have any such responsibility. I am also well-aware that most Americans do not own their own homes. I was merely replying to another member who cited home ownership in his response for some reason.



    Really? Now it’s time to turn the table around and ask you to provide YOUR citations to support these “facts.” I provided mine in that film you ignored. Hopefully you won’t try to use Wal-Mart P.R. propaganda to refute it.



    Here I am using figures provided by the government, which are lower than the ones I would prefer using since I don’t believe our economists or government are addressing Hidden Unemployment. So the U-3 figures I am using are the LEAST number of unemployed still seeking work for all jobs currently available in the USA (absent a couple hundred thousand seasonal farm jobs).

    Are you trying to claim that there would not be AT LEAST 7.6 million American job seekers still out of work even after filling every single available job in the current US job market?!?! I’d say there would be MILLIONS more, using the figures I think are ignored in Hidden unemployment.



    They are indisputably the biggest retail employer in the USA. They are also the most rapacious, conniving, and economically destructive retail employer too. Facts are facts, whether you choose to ignore them or not.

    IMO the long-term effects of this type of business model will eventually undermine our already shaky economy. That is just an opinion of course. However to make my final point clear, aside from minimum wage laws I really don’t dabble in government control of business. I advocate businesses act with enlightened self-interest. When they don’t, as in the case of Wal-Mart, I would support local citizens taking action like that in the film to keep Wal-Mart out of their local economy.
    Suggest you not buy anything from Walmart and I know they will miss having you as a customer. Also go to any new Walmart and picket all the new potential employees waiting in line for a job and tell them they are getting screwed. You think that a small grocery store is going to pay the average Walmart wage of 12.40 per hour for a full time employee and offer benefits? Not sure what you do for a living but you have no concept of reality.

    In addition businesses aren't in business to employ people, they are started by private citizens with the idea of making a profit. Making a profit often means hiring people and hires a lot of employees. Now if you want to pay people what you think they deserve then start your own business. How about telling me what a cashier at Walmart should make in your utopian world? What do you think Walmart does with its profits?

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I'm curious to know exactly what business he runs that successfully "competes" with Wal-Mart, and if it is located in a rural or city site. There are a number of common franchises that co-exist with Wal-Mart because they are not really in competition.

    For example, 7-11 convenience stores. They cater to the convenience market, people who are seeking a minor purchase and don't feel the need to go to Wal-Mart. Then there are Dunkin Donuts, McDonalds, and other food chains who served prepared fast food meals. There are tech reapair stores and auto-body repair shops, and many others that either don't or only partially compete with Wal-Mart. Again most of these businesses are service oriented.

    Where are the common consumer item factories and local production retailers?

    To paraphrase what several business owner's stated in the film I provided; don't mention Wal-Mart and American business in the same sentence, it's an oxy-moron.
    Do you understand what competing against Walmart means? EMPLOYEES!!

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Con is retired,(sucken from the system he rails about day and night) he lives in Houston Tx.I believe he was a cube monkey at a large international petro chem corp.but don't hold me to that.
    LOL, "sucken from the system he rails against?" Now that is funny from you ho rails against capitalism in almost every post. Not so with me, I fully support it but unlike you I understand personal responsibility and the reality that businesses should be allowed to pay whatever the market will allow
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Hm. I look around me and frankly I'm not buying it. I suspect manipulated figures.
    Gotta love conservatives. When given facts, they deny them based on what they want to be true. **** evidence, who needs it.
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